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Saudi Arabia before the Islamic awakening.

Saudi Arabian students in 1980 before the Islamic awakening.

Dark strains of political Islamism emerged in the 1970s and 1980s to rival the dominance of the Sahwa*. One of these was “Al-Jamma’a Al-Salafiyya Al-Muhtasiba,” an organization created by theology students in Madina. Once a small movement concerned with personal piety, it adopted a radical political stance under the direction of Juhayman Al-‘Utabi. On Nov. 20, 1979, Al-‘Utabi and his followers stormed the Grand Mosque in Makkah to incite violent revolution against the government and to usher in the “Mahdi” or redeemer of Islam. Their armed revolt was suppressed, and it became a reminder of the dangers posed by subversive organizations operating at the margins of Saudi society.

*Sahwa means: Islamic awakening

Read more here: http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentID=2011032096328

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Comment was by Hope on December 8, 2013 at 9:26am

Thank you Chris

Comment was by Chris on December 8, 2013 at 12:25am

Hi Hope,

The book is due back at the library.

I'm thinking of ordering it as it's going to take me a while to understand the background behind it and to absorb it.

Have you read any of the Al-Queda manual?

I've been trying to point out that many of the problems in the world are about economic theory as posted on the documentary group.

Chris

Comment was by Chris on December 6, 2013 at 3:32am

Hi Hope,

I'm having a difficult time getting through this book and learning about the history of Saudi Arabia.

Thanks for recommending it to me.

Chris

Comment was by Chris on November 28, 2013 at 12:10am

I picked up the book you recommended from the library today Hope. I've only read about 5 pages so far. On page 2 the book talked about the Shawa reaction to the U.S. using the KSA as a staging ground for the invasion of Iraq.

Something that wasn't reported in the international press, but was, or shortly made available is  prior to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait Hussein called the  H.W. Bush U.S. Presidential administration and asked if the U.S. would have a problem with his intention of taking control Kuwait's oil fields and invading the country. The H.W. Bush administration told him that the U.S. considered it a regional conflict and wouldn't intervene. Basically H.W. Bush, who supported Hussein as the CIA chief in the proxy war of Iraq and Iran gave him permission to proceed.

The reality of this gets worse when you learn about the end of the war and how General Colin Powell undermined General Schwarzkopf. Schwarzkopf wanted to give the Iraqi's a week to retreat. Powell cut it into a couple of days resulting in the Highway of death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m93lTnuPxpk

Comment was by Hope on November 19, 2013 at 1:37pm

I'll read "The Al Queda Manual" Thanks for sharing Chris!

Comment was by Chris on November 18, 2013 at 9:23am

I'd like to see Bandar doing more to help unite rather than divide.

Comment was by Chris on November 16, 2013 at 6:34pm

The Al Queda Manual

Scary militancy that I said before may lead to fascism.

These guys need to be crushed.

Comment was by Chris on November 15, 2013 at 5:19pm

I read the pamphlet that was written in the early 1980's (that was uncovered by British Intelligence in the early 90's?) in Egypt by the early founders of what's commonly called Al-Queda now. I don't remember what the pamphlet is commonly called.

Comment was by Chris on November 15, 2013 at 5:00pm

@ Hope, I've read about and seen pictures like the one you posted above that were taken in Afghanistan and Iran too, where women went to to local Universities.
What I mean is I've read that Islamic countries were more progressive the 70's.

Comment was by Ali on November 15, 2013 at 11:03am

I know hope http://atheistuniverse.net/photo/saudi-girls-school-in-the-eighties
haha Islamic awakening more linked to the Muslim Brotherhood than Wahhabism. and its literature comes from Abul A'la Maududi the engineer of the separation of Pakistan from India to establish "an Islamic state" where God commands is  the law and they also got great support from the Iranian revolutionaries...

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