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The other day, I got a question from a friend...

"Did you really say that you 'respect people too much to respect their beliefs', or something?"

So here's how that went (more or less):

"I did, yes. Kind of." I replied, grinning. "It's a quote from a guy called Johann Hari actually; 'I respect you as a person too much to respect your ridiculous beliefs' is what he said, I think."

"Isn't it a bit -"

"Mean?"

"Yeah..."

We both paused. I broke the silence.

"I don't think so.  There's a distinction, a line between disagreeing with someone and hating them... Put it this way; there's no reason to unconditionally 'respect' a belief that's, say, overtly homophobic or otherwise wrong."

'Wrong' raised an eyebrow.

"I mean, again, I respect each and every person's right to hold whatever beliefs they want, but that doesn't mean I have to respect the content of those beliefs."

"But... Don't a person's beliefs shape who they are?"

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Comment by Carnun on April 11, 2013 at 12:45pm

I didn't mean that you have to interrogate them :P

"I fnd it's other things, like compatibility that are more relevant in my relationships with others" - Oh, me too - day to day. The same with not shying away from the 'Atheist' label :)

I just get curious sometimes, that's all ;)

Comment by Marianne on April 11, 2013 at 12:42pm

Since religious beliefs do not apply to me, I don't question people's beliefs.I fnd it's other things, like compatibility that are more relevant in my relationships with others.  I never hide the fact that I am an atheist but it's rather pointless in the crowd I'm mixing with; I don't ask them if they believe in something or not .Only my close friends have I asked if they were atheists or what their beliefs were.

Comment by Carnun on April 11, 2013 at 12:31pm

Marianne: Interesting :)

Have you asked them about it? What do you expect they'd say?

Comment by Marianne on April 11, 2013 at 12:17pm

I don't have "religious" friends but most of my friends believe there is something after death. But it is a question that never arise in our dealings and conversations.

Comment by Carnun on April 9, 2013 at 10:26am

Michel: Oh, definitely.

"I remember the first time I put my finger in a live lamp socket. I got instantly smarter"

Nice :)

Comment by Michel on April 9, 2013 at 10:19am

I presume that in some cases, the 'admission of failure' (of the religious experience) can be a watershed moment.

I remember the first time I put my finger in a live lamp socket. I got instantly smarter (I was three or four years old =)

Comment by Carnun on April 9, 2013 at 10:11am

Michel: Indeed. Exposure to knowledge certainly does make it harder to accommodate faith - and frankly every attempt to do so is intellectually dishonest, if even unknowingly. But, what I meant (and I'm sure you're not arguing this) is that it's not like once a person goes "I'm an Atheist" they suddenly score higher on IQ tests* :P

*IQ tests are just an example, of course...

Comment by Michel on April 9, 2013 at 10:02am

...people who decide to dismiss their religious upbringings suddenly get smarter, but that doesn't happen.

It's mostly the other way around. People get smarter and eventually dismiss superstitions. And it can happen slowly - the getting smarter part..

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