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Oppose the Appointment of Amy Coney Barrett

I just sent the following to Ohio Republican Senator Rob Portman, by email and physical letter:

26 September, 2020

Senator Rob Portman
448 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

Senator Portman:

I am writing you to insist that you do not under any circumstances endorse or vote for the appointment of Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court of the United States. Please understand, as a non-religious American, it is not her Catholicism that I object to; she has an absolute right to that. However, her apparent intended application of that belief system to the laws of this country would be a blatant violation of the Establishment Clause of the Constitution, and she has made it clear in her previous statements that such is her intention.

My friends at the Freedom From Religion Foundation make this case far better than I could. Allow me to defer to them:

Barrett has made it clear that everything, including the law, is a means to promoting her personal religion and the “Kingdom of God.”

“If Barrett is confirmed, she will unquestionably eviscerate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment,” warn FFRF Co-Presidents Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor. “Many of our other hard-won freedoms would also likely be gutted.”

Barrett has made statements indicating that her religion would trump her oath of office. Barrett co-authored an article in 1998 about the conflict of Catholic dogma and the law, which, she wrote, can put “Catholic judges in a bind.” The article was couched in terms of judges recusing themselves from death penalty cases, but she added: “The prohibitions against abortion and euthanasia (properly defined) are absolute; those against war and capital punishment are not.”


In short, she wants to elevate her god’s law above the law of the land. Pardon me, but for a secular government to do so should be utterly intolerable. Our government is secular so that no one religion has any advantage over any other and so all can be treated EQUALLY. To do otherwise would be to create a second-class citizenry out of anyone who didn’t hold to Ms. Barrett’s beliefs, and that should be equally unsupportable.

Certainly, Ms. Barrett will be nominated and should have her hearing, but her positions on these critical issues are severely contrary to the nature of this nation’s laws and must not be supported. Do NOT allow her to attain a seat on the Supreme Court.

Sincerely,

Loren C. Miller, Jr.


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I urge all American members of Atheist Universe to make sure your voices and opinions are heard in the halls of the Senate and that they understand the gravity of this situation. It is not hyperbole to say that the fate of our democracy hangs in the balance here.

Make sure they know that YOU know.

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Comment was by Stephen Brodie on September 28, 2020 at 2:29pm

Onyango in any half-decent system that would be what happens. The Republicans are truly a bunch of hypocrites. 

Comment was by Onyango Makagutu on September 28, 2020 at 2:18pm

Given that the same senate refused to consider Garland even for a courtesy hearing, the issue, for me, would not even be about her faith, but to ensure that this hearing doesn't happen until after the election. If the citizens decide that they still want a Trump presidency, let him nominate whoever he wants, but only after the election.

Comment was by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on September 27, 2020 at 6:06pm

She would oppose all civil rights legislation.

"...there’s something even more odd about how conservatives like Barrett apply originalism. Because they seem to believe that the “original meaning” of every word and phrase just happens to be a conservative meaning. And where they can’t find the meaning that they want, these dedicated preservationists have a second approach … throw it out. Throw it all out. Like the entire 14th Amendment." [emphasis mine] 

Why Trump's expected Supreme Court nominee believes all Civil Right...

The Catholic cult to which she belongs, People of Praise, would inform her decisions. As an ex-member described, "...  basically, there was just cruelty and bullying, and it was not much difference than the Jim Jones cult. ... my story is very much like The Handmaid’s Tale series and the Netflix series 10-part documentary The Keepers." 

People of Praise: Former member of group tied to SCOTUS front-runne...

Comment was by Mrs.B on September 26, 2020 at 10:13pm

Excellent letter, Loren.

Comment was by Loren Miller on September 26, 2020 at 8:27pm

@Paul - I'll say this for former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura: he is an atheist!  Oh, yeah! [oops, that's the late Macho Man, Randy Savage!]

@Stephen Sadly, here in the States, religion is largely regarded as a badge of honor.  The one thing we have going for us is that survey after survey shows the religious population in the US going DOWN and the numbers of the "nones" going UP.  I just hope the trend continues.

Comment was by Paul Smith on September 26, 2020 at 7:51pm

T man's stunt brandishing the bible ought to have been met with derision or uncontrollable laughter. But this is the USA. 

We did have that wrestler governor in Minnesota. 

The make-up of the Supreme CT is super important. Oh well...

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on September 26, 2020 at 7:30pm

Here in the UK, it's very rare for politicians to acknowledge their religion ,lesser so than in the USA. Happily, they don't have any disdvantage over the other religious politicians. I would guess that most MPs and candidates of the labour party would call themselves non-believers and a big proportion are Tory's as well.

Comment was by Loren Miller on September 26, 2020 at 5:31pm

Obama gave "non-believers" a nod at his first inauguration speech, and in interviews, he has no problem acknowledging us and our right to participate in this nation and its government.  There is also the matter of the Congressional Freethought Caucus, which is working to keep our legislation at least somewhat more secular than it might otherwise be.

Otherwise, the believers continue to hold the high ground in government, most of the time.  That is due for a change.

Comment was by Paul Smith on September 26, 2020 at 5:16pm

Do American politicians ever make any concessions to atheists? We have as much power as a 18th century slave being flogged for nothing. 

Politicians are forever pandering to the god-loving robot majority. The precious constitutional protections against religious tyranny mean what? 

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on September 26, 2020 at 3:21pm

 Loren nothing beats solidarity and this election is so important the left and centre-left have just got to put aside their differences and show solidarity with the people who will be hurt most by a Trump victory. The labour party here in the UK forgot that lesson and the left and centre-left fought each other right up to Election day and the traditional labour supporters punished us in the polls. 

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