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After surviving the last end of the world scenario my mind was centered on scams. How many times has the church and its leaders conned the public?

As far as I'm concerned, every day is the correct answer.

Yet how many actually pay the price? Very few end up in jail, and by that I mean the pedophile hiding pope isn't bubba's bitch yet. Why should anyone be prosecuted for defrauding the public?

I started searching for data on religious scams, and the first link I check out tells the reader to beware of certain religious scams. Cool, someone understands there is a problem with allowing religion to continue raping the local idiots. In a country where you can be arrested for playing a little three card monte on the streets, which is nowhere near as insidious and corrupting as religion, how do you rationally not include every religion in the scam category?

Back to my searching, and the irony.

I start reading the scams, and they have nothing to do with religion itself. It is about those bad people that talk you into handing over your hard earned money under false pretenses, but lo and behold, it's not actually the church or religion that is the focus.

The "affinity church scam" is about someone claiming to share your viewpoint and lulls members of religious organizations into thinking they are genuine. Then they claim divine guidance or some other similar nonsense and grab your money in what can end up being a Ponzi scheme.

So a priest can share your viewpoint, take your money, and it is okay. He can pretend to have divine guidance. But if you're not part of the hierarchy, don't even think about it.

The "sob story scam" is about someone joining a church and stating he's recently converted. As time goes on he talks about some tragedy that is effecting his life, and the need for monetary help. A few tears and he makes a few dollars.

If this is a scam, why are all the evangelical cry babies not in jail? Same damn thing isn't it? Falwell teared up on national television claiming he was going to die if he didn't raise millions. Well, the bitch didn't die, why didn't they prosecute?

And yes, I know, he's in heaven now because god loves lying bastards.

The list goes on, and most of the scams are the same ones that churches are involved in on a daily basis. My favorite is about cults. Under the guise of faith an organization recruits members and convinces them to hand over all their possessions.

That sounds like every damn church I've encountered.

 

Also posted at The Cranky Atheist.

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Comment by Neal on June 4, 2011 at 1:24pm
That is a sad story JM, thanks for sharing.
Comment by Michel on June 4, 2011 at 1:03pm
The big problem with these scammers is that for their scams to work they need to profoundly meddle with the minds of their victims. The second step in cult recruitment practices, after the initial seduction, is deprivation. Physical exhaustion and isolation and the big hook: "You were worthy enough to be chosen, but now you are a piece of shit that needs to be rescued by us."
Cults IMO are the extreme end of the herddishness spectrum.
Comment by Michel on June 4, 2011 at 12:48pm
The best way to curb the scammers is to tax them.
Comment by Jean Marie on June 4, 2011 at 12:15pm

great points.

 

when confronted with religious charlatans, theists love to pull out the "no true scotsman" reply, seemingly oblivious to your point, Neal, that those same theists, if they agree with worldview of their own charlatan, do not see that as a scam.

 

yet it is.

 

My sister, who is paralyzed, had her legs curl up in contractures (a state joints of being permanently frozen in folded position). 

eventually, circulation to her feet became diminished enough,

wounds on her feet developed that would not heal.

 

My extremely devout sister, had sent cash to some famous tv evangelist, who promised her she would walk again.

When the doctors told her, they had to cut the tendons in her useless legs, to straighten them out, to improve circulation, so the wounds would heal, so she would not end up with her feet amputated............she refused.

She said her miracle is coming, and she will need her tendons intact when that day comes, and that it would be "an insult to god" (showing little faith) if she allowed doctors to cut the tendons......

 

Multiple doctors, psychiatrists, priests, and lawyers worked on this sticky issue of a patient who is noncompliant for religious reasons.  Priests in our family did what they could to convince my sister god would understand her reasons for having her tendons cut, and that growing new tendons would not be impossible for a god, etc etc.  I spoke with her, gently, frequently, pointing out how much more comfortable she'd be, her feet might stop feeling constantly cold, if only she'd allow the tendons to be cut. 

Teams of social workers debated having her deemed mentally incompetent, which she techinically was, although the standard for passing a mental competency test is very very very low bar.

No one could convince her to have the tendons cut, to save her legs.....no one felt comfortable forcing this surgery upon her.

 

She insisted the tv evangelist promised her a miracle, that she had paid for, too.

 

she ended up having both legs entirely amputated, above the knee, a surgery she also objected to initially, until it pointed out she would indeed, die of gangrene, without the amputations.

 

my family praised her "strong unwaivering faith in god, and in miracles". 

i felt sick.

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