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I won't defend evolution to creationists

     The simple reason is because it's not my fight. Acceptance of evolution is the mainstream Christian view. At least for Christianity, a literal view of Genesis is only held by some weird cults, mainly just in the USA. If a Christian wants to debate evolution they can discuss it among themselves. There are more Christians who accept evolution than there are atheists.

     But more than that, the creationists have an ulterior motive trying to bait atheists into debating evolution. They don't care if they win or lose so long as they can keep framing this as an atheist vs religious debate to their fans. Don't feed the trolls. It doesn't mean we have to allow misinformation to go unchallenged, it's just that we lose by winning anyway. Direct them to other Christians. This isn't really a science debate, it's a doctrinal debate within Christianity. They can work this out themselves.

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Comment was by Paul Smith on May 2, 2021 at 12:56am

If the text is not understood to be literal then the text is discredited. Word of god that is metaphorical or is to be understood not as it is written? That is absurd and blasphemous from perspective of a believer. 

Evolution is at odds with both the spirit and letter of the text. So if you want to engage in polemics with Christians it is sensible to explain evolution and how evolution is inconsistent with Christianity. If the former is valid the latter is toast. 

I don't think you are correct about creationists either. Creationism is an aesthetic apology for Christianity that attempts to discredit evolution. Thus the bs about the missing link and various ways creationism challenges the validity of evolution. Creationists feel threatened by the prospect that evolution is real. 

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