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"Joan, many people have trouble reading Shakespeare, because they know that there are meanings and…"
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"Loren, your Bertrand Russell quote, including, "The infliction of cruelty with a good…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Stephen, I generally do not read Shakespeare  because he is too complex for my simple…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, another strong statement, " It was during recovery from her (Ruth Hurmence…"
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Agreed. It's just a book, & I will not live my life according to a book."
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"No, Joan, anything I've found doesn't seem to fit."
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren Miller on July 13, 2021 at 6:10am you wrote:  If you're going to dignify the claim…"
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"Mrs.B, I like your comment, "Prayers cannot correct what it couldn't prevent." I am…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, I agree,  Something which does not exist cannot help us, but chronic dependence on…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, "Faith doesn't care whether something is actually TRUE or not." That is…"
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"Grinning Cat, I love your comment about women and choice and the flowchart! Thanks!"
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"I liked it. To the point."
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I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include music, especially classical, high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), enthusiasm for cars and motoring, single-malt whisky and biking.

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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Christian morality is the morality of slaves. -- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche Precisely. Virtually 100% of the bible suggests that humankind give up any sense of self-motivation in favor of Yahweh's skewed and inhuman form of morality, saying:…"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Dear Joan!  Your mind is many things, but "simple is NOT one of them!  That's one among multiple reasons why I am glad to have known you for the past 12 years!"
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Stephen Brodie commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"“If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country.” E.M. Forster, What I believe and other essays."
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"I am way behind reading this string and I find it contains great jewels too precious to let go. I am weary, my granddaughter marries tomorrow and I will be busy, but I fully intend to come back. Good night, all. I am most grateful for each one of…"
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Chris B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Joan, many people have trouble reading Shakespeare, because they know that there are meanings and jokes at different levels - he wrote for a diverse public. The most pleasant thing to do is read Shakespeare and enjoy the story, then the meanings and…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, your Bertrand Russell quote, including, "The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience" rings so very true for me. A great quote!"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Stephen, I generally do not read Shakespeare  because he is too complex for my simple mind. However, this little snippet you offered us speaks clearly to my mind and I am glad to attempt to read him because I haven't tried since 1954…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, another strong statement, " It was during recovery from her (Ruth Hurmence Green's) first round of cancer treatments during the early 70s that Ruth, “a half-hearted Methodist” decided to read the Bible cover to cover.…"
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Agreed. It's just a book, & I will not live my life according to a book."
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"No, Joan, anything I've found doesn't seem to fit."
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren Miller on July 13, 2021 at 6:10am you wrote:  If you're going to dignify the claim that one of our books is not just a book, but in some sense an infallible document, it seems to me that you will always be held hostage to the…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Mrs.B, I like your comment, "Prayers cannot correct what it couldn't prevent." I am interested in who Chuku Emeka is and could not find anything about him/her. Do you, or any of the readers of this post, have any…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, I agree,  Something which does not exist cannot help us, but chronic dependence on something which fails to exist does active harm to all of us. ~ Loren Miller"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, "Faith doesn't care whether something is actually TRUE or not." That is exactly why faith is not a valid or a sufficient means for making decisions.l "
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Grinning Cat, I love your comment about women and choice and the flowchart! Thanks!"
15 hours ago
Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"I liked it. To the point."
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Die For A Lie?

Posted on July 6, 2021 at 8:00am 0 Comments

The early days of Christianity were not especially pleasant for its participants, apparently.  The Roman authorities were not pleased that Christians were touting a new god that was alleged to override those they had invented, and the Jews who didn’t recognize this alleged Messiah weren’t having any that this new cult was selling, either.  It was Rome, though, that got particularly exercised over this emerging religion, though.  Consequences ranging from forced participation in gladiatorial…

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The Red Herring of Spirituality

Posted on June 2, 2021 at 8:40am 4 Comments

The following is an old blog from Atheist Nexus, around October of 2015.  I think the topic material is still very relevant to the here and now, though.



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How many times have we heard it?  “I’m not religious, but I am spiritual.”  To this day, while the intent if not the meaning of that phrase is at least vaguely understood, there should be another way to express it.  I suspect that a goodly number of the people on this planet have…

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Then What Are You For?

Posted on May 1, 2021 at 8:40am 5 Comments

...they [the Roman Catholic Church] for example thought that slavery was perfectly fine... absolutely okay, and then they didn't, and what is the point of the Catholic Church if it says, “oh well we couldn't know better because nobody else did”? [To the affirmative team] Then what are you for?!

-- Stephen Fry, answering a question during the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate, “Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world?”



Of course, slavery was okay…

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A Difference In One Word

Posted on April 1, 2021 at 7:01am 1 Comment

Words are subtle and powerful things.  Ten billion different things can be said with words, from rage to romance, with a multidimensional gradient of meanings and emotions in between those two markers.  There are big words and small words out there: tiny little one- and two- and three- and four-letter words which will be a first-grader’s initial exposure to language learning, then two- and three- and four- and five-syllable verbal jaw breakers which will be the attention-getters, that mark…

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At 4:17pm on May 16, 2021, Stephen Brodie said…

Loren I have noticed the delay in posting. Not sure what I can do, but I'll message someone about it 

At 3:39pm on December 5, 2020, Stephen Brodie said…

The big 70. But  Loren it's not the numerical age that matters it's your fitness.

And from what I can see you look very healthy, long may it continue that way.

Many happy returns. Stephen 

At 9:01am on December 05, 2020, Stephen Brodie gave Loren Miller a gift
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Happy birthday Loren
At 2:13am on December 5, 2020, Stephen Brodie said…

Happy birthday Loren. I do hope you have a nice day.

At 7:57pm on October 12, 2020, Mrs.B said…

I'm not either Loren, but Rick is, & sometimes info between he, Joan, or Randy comes in handy.

At 7:37am on September 1, 2020, Randall Smith said…

I'm hurt that you haven't join my Sports group!

(Randy)

At 2:20pm on December 5, 2019, Stephen Brodie said…

Oh wow Loren. Happy birthday my friend have a great day 

At 12:02pm on December 5, 2018, Stephen Brodie said…

Happy birthday Loren. Have a great day. This is the one day that gives you permission to eat and drink whatever you want. ENJOY.

At 9:40am on December 5, 2017, Stephen Brodie said…

Happy birthday Loren. Have a great day

At 4:02pm on December 5, 2016, Mrs.B said…

Have a great day Loren!

 
 
 

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