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I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"I am now convinced that children should not be subjected to the frightfulness of the Christian religion [...]. If the concept of a father who plots to have his own son put to death is presented to children as beautiful and as worthy of…"
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Grinning Cat commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"There’s a gap in my education; I haven’t yet seen Religulous (except for the closing message below). It’s not fair or honest to assume that all or most of the (at least) thousands of religions on this earth aspire to the sorts of…"
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Fantastic quote."
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"I'll tell you what you did with Atheists for about 1500 years. You outlawed them from the universities or any teaching careers, besmirched their reputations, banned or burned their books or their writings of any kind, drove them into exile,…"
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"I own that movie."
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Loren Miller commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"I'm surprised and a bit disappointed that I hadn't shared this with the gang here before now.  I first ran onto Kitbull not long after it was released by Sparkshorts, a division of Pixar, and from the get-go, it charmed the daylights…"
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Loren Miller commented on Randall Smith's group Just sports stuff.
"What happened?  More like what DIDN'T happen, which is to say, our defense.  The "D" just folded in the fourth quarter, and that was that."
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Thanks a LOT, Terry!  And now that I have your book to draw on, my reservoir of quotes is that much deeper!"
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Terence Meaden commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, I have been admiring your daily quotations immensely. They are always so good. You are doing a highly commendable job. Terry"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking. It's nothing to brag about. And those who preach faith and enable and elevate it are our intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and…"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Grim huh?"
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Stephen Brodie commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Morality is an “emergent property” of evolution. Seeing that all humans are largely the same in the major particulars of brain and mind — which includes our ability to develop a conscience — it’s no surprise that the…"
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Grinning Cat commented on Loren Miller's blog post Atheism Versus Agnosticism
"On beliefs "based more on a taste for steak than reality": "You will eat, bye and bye,In that glorious land above the sky (way up high).Work and pray, live on hay,You'll get pie in the sky when you die." --Joe Hill,…"
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Atheism Versus Agnosticism

Posted on October 1, 2021 at 8:30am 8 Comments

There has been an ongoing argument regarding the words, “atheism” and “agnosticism,” practically since the biologist Thomas Henry Huxley coined the term, back in 1869.  What further complicates the contretemps is the fact that the object at the center of the belief or argument – “god” – continues to be without any form of objective demonstration or proof.  The conflation of the two terms on the part of some people only muddies the waters further.  Granted that I am no Huxley nor Hume.  To…

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Grover's Corners and Dancing in Hurricanes

Posted on September 1, 2021 at 9:46am 0 Comments

Yet another reprint of a blog I first wrote back in 2017 for Atheist Nexus.  I could be accused of being excessively optimistic and wearing my Pollyanna suit on this one, but I think it has something to say.  Hope you enjoy.





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Back in college, I was invited to participate in a production of Thornton Wilder’s play, Our Town, which was being put on by the drama department of Notre Dame College.  It was a nice diversion…

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On Losing the Naïveté: Confronting Unreality

Posted on August 2, 2021 at 7:50am 4 Comments

Something which does not exist cannot help us, but chronic dependence on something which fails to exist does active harm to all of us.

-- Loren C. Miller, Jr., It's Time to Lose the Naïveté



When I first wrote the above back in August of 2010, my thoughts were on the waste of time and money and resources invested in religion and the worship of a god that fails to evince…

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Die For A Lie?

Posted on July 6, 2021 at 8:00am 0 Comments

The early days of Christianity were not especially pleasant for its participants, apparently.  The Roman authorities were not pleased that Christians were touting a new god that was alleged to override those they had invented, and the Jews who didn’t recognize this alleged Messiah weren’t having any that this new cult was selling, either.  It was Rome, though, that got particularly exercised over this emerging religion, though.  Consequences ranging from forced participation in gladiatorial…

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At 2:24pm on September 4, 2021, Detlef Pelz said…

I like fish and chips, too. :)

At 11:34am on August 21, 2021, Terence Meaden said…

I wish that I had allowed more time to add many more fine thoughts from my friends. Trouble was that I prepared the bulk of the book of atheist quotations between 2000 and about 2014, and then other priorities (chiefly in academic archaeology, fieldwork and writing) took over. 

Loren Miller, 14 November 2009, Atheist Nexus: "We live now in the age of science, methodology and logic, where rational thought is slowly but surely displacing superstition as the primary means of evaluating our reality, how it behaves and what we can do with it. The brand of "crossing your fingers" which Pascal's Wager represents has no place and is unsupportable by any form of rational analysis."

At 10:44am on August 21, 2021, Terence Meaden said…

Re Quote of the Day: "Something which does not exist cannot help us, but chronic dependence on something which fails to exist does active harm to all of us." Loren C. Miller. From page 82, of the book "Q". 

At 4:17pm on May 16, 2021, Stephen Brodie said…

Loren I have noticed the delay in posting. Not sure what I can do, but I'll message someone about it 

At 3:39pm on December 5, 2020, Stephen Brodie said…

The big 70. But  Loren it's not the numerical age that matters it's your fitness.

And from what I can see you look very healthy, long may it continue that way.

Many happy returns. Stephen 

At 9:01am on December 05, 2020, Stephen Brodie gave Loren Miller a gift
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Happy birthday Loren
At 2:13am on December 5, 2020, Stephen Brodie said…

Happy birthday Loren. I do hope you have a nice day.

At 7:57pm on October 12, 2020, Mrs.B said…

I'm not either Loren, but Rick is, & sometimes info between he, Joan, or Randy comes in handy.

At 7:37am on September 1, 2020, Randall Smith said…

I'm hurt that you haven't join my Sports group!

(Randy)

At 2:20pm on December 5, 2019, Stephen Brodie said…

Oh wow Loren. Happy birthday my friend have a great day 

 
 
 

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