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I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include music, especially classical, high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), enthusiasm for cars and motoring, single-malt whisky and biking.

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Loren Miller commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"After it was clear that the outcome of the OSU – Indiana game was pretty well settled, I decided to dig into Denis Villeneuve's take on Dune. Being that I've read the first six of Frank Herbert's books, own and have seen both…"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"A Well-Informed Electorate Is a Prerequisite for Democracy. --Thomas Jefferson Very true ... but when the information comes from corrupt sources, such as Fox News, OAN, Newsmax, or Breitbart, one can hardly say those who patronize such sources are…"
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Jumbled is the way I read it."
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"I dared, for the first and last time in my life, to express a theological conclusion: "But how can a necessary being exist totally polluted with the possible? What difference is there, then, between God and primogenial chaos? Isn't…"
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Agreed."
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Loren Miller commented on Randall Smith's group Just sports stuff.
"I didn't watch the game, but will probably pick up highlights on YouTube.  It IS encouraging that the Browns are deep enough to be able to win without such critical starters."
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"A college should be a safe space for thought, not a safe space from thought. -- Salman Rushdie, Real Time with Bill Maher As you might imagine, the above was in the context of the current spat of political correctness which has been in evidence on…"
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Stephen Brodie commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Nice one Loren  "
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Well, so long as we're on the topic of Omar Khayyam:"
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Stephen Brodie commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"None of Khayyam's poetry wasn't published in his lifetime because much of his work would have seemed anti-Islamic to the powers that be. Here's one of the more obvious ones. The secrets which my book of love has bred,Cannot be told…"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"What a shame, Stephen.  I'm not certain, but I think there is a copy of the Rubaiyat in my mom's library.  Will have to see about that."
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Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Yes, he does."
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Stephen Brodie commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren I was once given a beautifully bound copy of the Rubaiyat by Omar Khayyám. I adored that particular English translation sadly I lost it in a fire at my Sisters flat."
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"He (the Rev. Mr. Whitefield) used, indeed, sometimes to pray for my conversion, but never had the satisfaction of believing that his prayers were heard. -- Benjamin Franklin Franklin may not have been a declared atheist, but he sure talked like one!"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"How much more of the mosque, of prayer and fasting? Better go drunk and begging round the taverns. Khayyam, drink wine, for soon this clay of yours Will make a cup, bowl, one day a jar. When once you hear the roses are in bloom, Then is the time,…"
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Atheism Versus Agnosticism

Posted on October 1, 2021 at 8:30am 8 Comments

There has been an ongoing argument regarding the words, “atheism” and “agnosticism,” practically since the biologist Thomas Henry Huxley coined the term, back in 1869.  What further complicates the contretemps is the fact that the object at the center of the belief or argument – “god” – continues to be without any form of objective demonstration or proof.  The conflation of the two terms on the part of some people only muddies the waters further.  Granted that I am no Huxley nor Hume.  To…

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Grover's Corners and Dancing in Hurricanes

Posted on September 1, 2021 at 9:46am 0 Comments

Yet another reprint of a blog I first wrote back in 2017 for Atheist Nexus.  I could be accused of being excessively optimistic and wearing my Pollyanna suit on this one, but I think it has something to say.  Hope you enjoy.





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Back in college, I was invited to participate in a production of Thornton Wilder’s play, Our Town, which was being put on by the drama department of Notre Dame College.  It was a nice diversion…

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On Losing the Naïveté: Confronting Unreality

Posted on August 2, 2021 at 7:50am 4 Comments

Something which does not exist cannot help us, but chronic dependence on something which fails to exist does active harm to all of us.

-- Loren C. Miller, Jr., It's Time to Lose the Naïveté



When I first wrote the above back in August of 2010, my thoughts were on the waste of time and money and resources invested in religion and the worship of a god that fails to evince…

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Die For A Lie?

Posted on July 6, 2021 at 8:00am 0 Comments

The early days of Christianity were not especially pleasant for its participants, apparently.  The Roman authorities were not pleased that Christians were touting a new god that was alleged to override those they had invented, and the Jews who didn’t recognize this alleged Messiah weren’t having any that this new cult was selling, either.  It was Rome, though, that got particularly exercised over this emerging religion, though.  Consequences ranging from forced participation in gladiatorial…

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At 2:24pm on September 4, 2021, Detlef Pelz said…

I like fish and chips, too. :)

At 11:34am on August 21, 2021, Terence Meaden said…

I wish that I had allowed more time to add many more fine thoughts from my friends. Trouble was that I prepared the bulk of the book of atheist quotations between 2000 and about 2014, and then other priorities (chiefly in academic archaeology, fieldwork and writing) took over. 

Loren Miller, 14 November 2009, Atheist Nexus: "We live now in the age of science, methodology and logic, where rational thought is slowly but surely displacing superstition as the primary means of evaluating our reality, how it behaves and what we can do with it. The brand of "crossing your fingers" which Pascal's Wager represents has no place and is unsupportable by any form of rational analysis."

At 10:44am on August 21, 2021, Terence Meaden said…

Re Quote of the Day: "Something which does not exist cannot help us, but chronic dependence on something which fails to exist does active harm to all of us." Loren C. Miller. From page 82, of the book "Q". 

At 4:17pm on May 16, 2021, Stephen Brodie said…

Loren I have noticed the delay in posting. Not sure what I can do, but I'll message someone about it 

At 3:39pm on December 5, 2020, Stephen Brodie said…

The big 70. But  Loren it's not the numerical age that matters it's your fitness.

And from what I can see you look very healthy, long may it continue that way.

Many happy returns. Stephen 

At 9:01am on December 05, 2020, Stephen Brodie gave Loren Miller a gift
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Happy birthday Loren
At 2:13am on December 5, 2020, Stephen Brodie said…

Happy birthday Loren. I do hope you have a nice day.

At 7:57pm on October 12, 2020, Mrs.B said…

I'm not either Loren, but Rick is, & sometimes info between he, Joan, or Randy comes in handy.

At 7:37am on September 1, 2020, Randall Smith said…

I'm hurt that you haven't join my Sports group!

(Randy)

At 2:20pm on December 5, 2019, Stephen Brodie said…

Oh wow Loren. Happy birthday my friend have a great day 

 
 
 

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