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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I have been an atheist, and likely much longer. There is a fascination in me of those who are sufficiently skilled in language that they structure words into concepts and ideas and proposed actions which grab my attention and interest, whether it is John F. Kennedy's unabashed statement: "We choose to go to the moon and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard," Robert A. Heinlein's blunt expression: "If you've got the truth, you can demonstrate it. Talking doesn't prove it. SHOW people," or Captain Kirk's subtle yet important tactical observation, having encountered and been challenged by the dauntingly huge First Federation vessel: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... Poker!"
Certainly, atheism has had its share of skilled spokespeople, whose words have inspired and driven us, whether it was Madalyn Murray O'Hair, saying: "An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church," or Sam Harris, who noted that: "The only problem with Islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam," or Aron Ra's far more succinct: "If you can't SHOW it, you don't KNOW it."
Consciously or unconsciously, I suspect all of us have learned and grown from such words and many others, becoming stronger and more mature, not just in our atheism but in ourselves, having heard such words as these, and that is the point of this group: not to just deal in quotes which praise and promote atheism but which advance the cause of knowledge, self-understanding and self-ownership. Each of us have likely heard someone say something and think, "Wow!" and resonated to the significance of what they heard.
That's what I want to do here: share, learn, and grow, not just from THEIR words, but our own.
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Think about it and consult a dictionary before commenting. I've gotten some idiotic responses to this.
Started by Lachailill McLennan. Last reply by Doug Hanlon on Sunday. 1 Reply 0 Likes
Research has shown that increasing aid reduces anti-western sentiment. Aid is more effective than bullets at fighting terrorism.
Started by Lachailill McLennan. Last reply by Doug Hanlon Sep 24. 2 Replies 0 Likes
Simply believing in compassion makes religion redundant.
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Comment was by Loren Miller on September 16, 2022 at 8:06am
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Faith does not offer a strong link between our beliefs and actual states of the world.
-- Sam Harris
Of course, because faith can support ANY idea, regardless of whether it's true or not. As it comes to that:
I don't want to believe; I want to know.
-- Carl Sagan
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Many religions now come before us with ingratiating smirks and outspread hands, like an unctuous merchant in a bazaar. They offer consolation and solidarity and uplift, competing as they do in a marketplace. But we have a right to remember how barbarically they behaved when they were strong and were making an offer that people could not refuse.
-- Christopher Hitchens
It's the usual deal. When religions are in the minority, their primary concern is minority rights. When they are in the majority and in control, There Are NO Minority Rights. This is why they cannot be allowed to gain control of our government.
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Religious belief is on a pedestal, above the law......sickening.
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Religious freedom doesn't include the freedom to disregard the law and restrict another's freedom to believe and act differently. No one's forcing Catholic nuns to practice birth control, or priests to wear condoms (good idea tho). If you really feel your religious beliefs conflict with the mandates of running a business, the solution is simple: Get your ass out of the boardroom and back to the pulpit (where it belongs).
-- Quentin R. Bufogle
The problem with the above is that local, state, and federal governments HAVE allowed religion to ignore the law, thinking that such action aligns with the whole "separation of state and church" doctrine, and it DOESN'T. That one misunderstanding threatens to undo our democracy if we don't recognize and correct it.
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Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Ridiculous ideas frankly deserve ridicule, and I personally cannot see how the idea of a supposed "Trinity" (which is NEVER mentioned in the bible) deserves any credibility whatsoever. That there is no supporting evidence for the god of the christers, nor his putative "son" or the holy ghost, just adds to the absurdity.
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In Corinthians 1. 19, God says, “I will fool the wise people. I will bring to nothing the understanding of the clever people.”
So, let us be blunt about it: we must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God.
-- Gary North, The Intellectual Schizophrenia of the New Christian Right in Christianity and Civilization: The Failure of the American Baptist Culture, No. 1 (1982), p. 25.)
See that date? 1982! The Dominionists who want to superimpose their Seven Mountains strategy on the United States are playing the long game, and they've been playing it for at least the last 40 years, and likely much longer. They have no use for democracy, nor any for the rights of individuals. They want a Christian Theocracy and they will do what it takes to get it ... which is why we cannot give them so much as an inch anymore.
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If you’re doing what you’re doing for reward and punishment, it’s not really morality.
-- Penn Jillette
If it takes the threat of hell to make you a moral person, then you are not at all moral, you are just a coward who responds well to threats.
-- Leo Wolf
Two smart atheists, saying the same thing in different ways. A little twofer for your Sunday!
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Comment was by Doone on September 10, 2022 at 1:56pm
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Not a quote, but our Indo European ancestors thought Priests came fro the Head of a dead God Yemo the first king as social classes emerge from his anatomy (priesthood from his head, the warrior class from his breast and arms, and the commoners from his sexual organs and legs).
Which to me means the game was fixed from the beginning to benefit the priesthood.
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Proto-Indo-European_mythology
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The first rule of the Dunning-Kruger club is that you don't know that you're a member of the Dunning-Kruger club.
-- seen on the Discord site: Roll to Disbelieve
Because if you DO know that you're a member, you're likely smart enough to know what the Dunning-Kruger effect is, which at least opens up the possibility that you DON'T think that you know it all!
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All religions are man-made; God has not yet revealed himself beyond doubt to anybody.
-- Bangambiki Habyarimana, Pearls Of Eternity
And this is because something that doesn't exist has a pretty rough time revealing itself to anyone ... or doing much of anything else!
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