Nice Comment

Comment was by Loren Miller on July 29, 2021 at 2:48pm

And dishonest and mendacious and untruthful ... and besides that, they tell LIES!

Comment was by Mrs.B on July 29, 2021 at 1:28pm

That's where secretive, & sneaky comes in.

Comment was by Loren Miller on July 29, 2021 at 7:17am

Accustom a people to believe that priests or any other class of men can forgive sins, and you will have sins in abundance.
-- Thomas Paine

Of course you'll have "sins in abundance" ... because you will have people who think they can get away with it.

Comment was by Chris B on July 29, 2021 at 12:15am

Great quote!

Comment was by Loren Miller on July 28, 2021 at 6:48am

No idea is above scrutiny and no people are beneath dignity.
-- Maajid Nawaz, Islam and the Future of Tolerance

This was a part of a film, documenting an ongoing discussion between Maajid Nawaz and Sam Harris. Having seen it (on Amazon Prime), I have only two words for you: SEE IT!!!

Comment was by Loren Miller on July 27, 2021 at 6:59am

You're a child made in the image of god? "Oh, no, you're not. You're a faggot, and you can't join your church and you can't go to heaven." This is disgraceful, it's inhuman, it's obscene, and it comes from a clutch of hysterical, sinister virgins who have already betrayed their charge in the children of their own church!
-- Christopher Hitchens

The above extract from the 2009 Intelligence Squared debate on the question, "Is the Catholic Church a force for good in the world?", one of the few times I've seen the Hitch actually ANGRY. I suspect at least part of that anger was in reaction to the friendship he held with his partner in that debate, Stephen Fry, who of course is gay. A later quote during the Q&A session of that same debate further expresses both his connection to Fry and his revulsion at representatives of the Church:

I say that homosexuality is not just a form of sex; it’s a form of love and it deserves our respect for that reason. ​In fact, when my children were young, I’d have been proud to have Stephen [Fry] as their babysitter and I’d tell them they were lucky. And if anyone came to my door as a babysitter wearing holy orders, I’d first call a cab and then the police.
-- Christopher Hitchens

Comment was by Loren Miller on July 26, 2021 at 6:42am

Since Jimmy Carter, religious fundamentalists play a major role in elections. He was the first president who made a point of exhibiting himself as a born again Christian. That sparked a little light in the minds of political campaign managers: Pretend to be a religious fanatic and you can pick up a third of the vote right away. Nobody asked whether Lyndon Johnson went to church every day. Bill Clinton is probably about as religious as I am, meaning zero, but his managers made a point of making sure that every Sunday morning he was in the Baptist church singing hymns.
-- Noam Chomsky

Jimmy Carter may have introduced the idea of a relationship between his personal religion and the voters he might attract, but it was Ronald Wilson Reagan who blatantly INVITED the Christian Reich to join him and the Republican party. That event, all by itself, constitutes one of the worst and most dangerous moments in American history.

Comment was by Mrs.B on July 25, 2021 at 1:37pm

I don't want to have faith, I want to know, as someone once said.

Comment was by Loren Miller on July 25, 2021 at 7:25am

To me, the bottom line is honesty. A person with integrity doesn’t claim to know supernatural things that he or she cannot know. An honest person wants solid evidence to support assertions and is leery of baseless claims. Therefore, skeptics are the most honest of all.
-- Jim Haught

There may be some holes to be poked in the above in certain venues, but as regards religion, I think it works pretty well.

Comment was by Loren Miller on July 25, 2021 at 7:23am

I suspect, Mrs. B, because they want simplistic answers to complex problems.

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