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Secularism in the UK and Europe.and all those lucky places that doesnt have Trump as its leader

To show that Secularism and Freethought are alive and well in the United Kingdom and Europe.

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Did Europe's centuries of religious war result in its secularism?

Started by Tom Sarbeck. Last reply by Chris Jul 30, 2016. 8 Replies

Did long-term monarchs impose their religions?In the US, with presidents' terms limited to eight years, religions might be imposed by majorities in state legislatures or Congress or by majorities on state supreme courts or the US Supreme Court.Continue

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Firms 'place asylum seekers in sub-standard housing'

Started by Stephen. Last reply by Mrs.B Jan 20, 2016. 1 Reply

Private security firms G4S and Serco have placed asylum seekers in sub-standard properties, according to a report by the National Audit Office.…Continue

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Comment by Stephen on July 13, 2019 at 6:18pm

Rethinking religion and belief in public life: a manifesto for change

Comment by Stephen on July 13, 2019 at 2:05pm

BBC dilutes protections for religious ideas after NSS lobbying
The BBC has watered down some protections for religious ideas but retained a clause placing a premium on depictions of the Islamic prophet Muhammad in new editorial guidelines.
The corporation has removed a requirement that content "likely to cause offence" to religious people should be referred to a senior editorial figure following National Secular Society lobbying.
The NSS responded to a consultation on the BBC's draft guidelines in November and raised concerns that the corporation was deferring excessively to religious sensitivities.
The final version still requires such material to "be editorially justified as judged against audience expectations and generally accepted standards", a requirement which the NSS also criticised.
The BBC has also removed a requirement to avoid "derogatory treatment" of "religions" unless it is "justified by the context". The NSS criticised the requirement on the basis that it treated religions as equivalent to people or groups of people.
But a requirement to "have strong editorial justification" for depicting Muhammad, and to refer any depictions to "a senior editorial figure", has been retained in full. The NSS argued that the requirement placed "a particular taboo" on such depictions.
In 2015 the BBC overturned an outright ban on depictions of Muhammad after the NSS challenged it in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo atrocity.
The guidelines also include a new line saying blasphemy laws around the world "can be very different" from those in the UK and content producers "may seek advice" on them from the BBC's legal team. The NSS has asked the BBC to explain its rationale for including this line and how it will be interpreted.
NSS spokesperson Chris Sloggett said the BBC had made "a couple of small steps in the right direction".
"The BBC has questioned how carefully it needs to tread around religion and made some minor alterations which will help to prevent unnecessary bureaucracy from hindering free expression.
"But its approach is still too deferential to religion in several places. It's particularly disappointing that such a premium is placed on depictions of Muhammad. The national broadcaster shouldn't be treating religion as a special case or helping to uphold blasphemy taboos.
"The new line on blasphemy laws around the world is puzzling and open to some alarming interpretations, so we've written to the BBC again to ask for clarification."
Elsewhere a requirement not to cause "unnecessary offence" to "vulnerable groups" has been replaced by a requirement to avoid causing "unjustifiable offence".
The NSS also said guidelines on impartiality and the promotion of "religious views by stealth" were inconsistent with the exclusive Thought for the Day on Radio 4 or Pause for Thought on BBC Radio 2. The BBC did not change its guidelines in response.

Comment by Mrs.B on July 9, 2019 at 2:40pm

It never ends........

Comment by Stephen on July 9, 2019 at 1:30pm

Christian doctor refuses to address trans patients by their preferred pronouns

A Christian doctor is taking the Government to court, claiming he was sacked for refusing to call transgender patients by their chosen sex. Dr David Mackereth, 56, says he lost his job while carrying out assessments for the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) last June, because he believed using transgendered pronouns were against his conscience as a doctor and a Christian. In response, the DWP declared that failing to accommodate clients’ preferences would amount to ‘harassment’ under the Equality Act. Dr Mackereth, a Reformed Baptist who had been an A&E doctor for 26 years in the NHS, was dismissed from his role as a ‘Health and Disability Assessor.

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Comment by Mrs.B on July 8, 2019 at 4:39pm

I would think so too, but who knows. I could ask I guess.

Comment by Stephen on July 8, 2019 at 4:37pm

I don't see why they can't reuse your fake hips, after all, they are prepared to use other body parts.

Comment by Mrs.B on July 8, 2019 at 4:33pm

That's good too. 

I'm wondering now what they'll do with the fake hips.....hahahahaha.....

Comment by Stephen on July 8, 2019 at 4:31pm

That's a really unselfish act. I haven't made any plans other than having a humanist funeral. I carry a Kidney and liver donors card and my family know my feelings on this subject.

Comment by Mrs.B on July 8, 2019 at 4:25pm

I'm having no service. My remains will be donated to the university for medical research. The papers are signed, witnessed, & delivered.

Comment by Stephen on July 8, 2019 at 4:23pm

That sounds great. It's been years since I attended a Humanist wedding, but all the members of my family who have died have opted for a humanist funeral, it's a wonderfully personal service. When I pop my clogs I'll have a humanist service.


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