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To show that Secularism and Freethought are alive and well in the United Kingdom and Europe.

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Did Europe's centuries of religious war result in its secularism?

Started by Tom Sarbeck. Last reply by Chris Jul 30, 2016. 8 Replies

Did long-term monarchs impose their religions?In the US, with presidents' terms limited to eight years, religions might be imposed by majorities in state legislatures or Congress or by majorities on state supreme courts or the US Supreme Court.Continue

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Firms 'place asylum seekers in sub-standard housing'

Started by Stephen. Last reply by Mrs.B Jan 20, 2016. 1 Reply

Private security firms G4S and Serco have placed asylum seekers in sub-standard properties, according to a report by the National Audit Office.…Continue

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Comment by Mrs.B on March 27, 2018 at 2:12pm

Beyond depressing..

Comment by Stephen on March 27, 2018 at 5:28am

Court rules C of E had right to block married gay man from NHS role

The National Secular Society has called for the end of religious influence in NHS appointments after a court ruled that a bishop had the right to block a gay man's appointment.
The Court of Appeal ruled today that Canon Jeremy Pemberton was not discriminated against when a decision from the acting bishop of Southwell and Nottingham prevented him taking an NHS job in 2014.
Richard Inwood withdrew Pemberton's permission to officiate as an Anglican cleric, meaning he could not take up a position as a bereavement manager at Sherwood Forest Hospitals NHS Trust in Nottinghamshire. Pemberton was in a same-sex marriage, which Inwood said was against the church's teachings.
The appeal judge cited the Church of England's exemption under schedule 9 of the Equality Act. The exemption allows it to discriminate on the basis of sexuality if it contravenes its teaching.
Lord Justice Underhill said: "If you belong to an institution with known and lawful rules, it implies no violation of dignity and it is not cause for reasonable offence that those rules should be applied to you, however wrong you may believe them to be. Not all opposition of interests is hostile or offensive."
NSS chief executive Stephen Evans said the decision highlighted "the need for change on several fronts".
"It beggars belief that religious groups should have the legal authority to prevent staff working in positions in the publicly-funded NHS at all. And it's particularly appalling that the established Church of England can do so to people because they're married to someone of the same sex.
"This case shows the need to end religious chaplaincy in the NHS and to reconsider the Church of England's exemption from equality laws. NHS staff should be appointed to serve us all, rather than because they fulfil a religious role."
The NSS campaigns for the end of religious hospital chaplaincy, which costs the NHS over £23m per year.
After the case Pemberton said: "The Church of England has established through this process that it can continue to discriminate legally against some LGBT people in relation to their employment, even where that employment is not within the boundaries of the church's jurisdiction."
He also lost an appeal against an employment tribunal in 2016. The ruling in that case said he "was aware his marriage would be seen in conflict with the teachings of the church" and "would never have been in this position had he not defied the doctrine of the church".
"In getting married to his partner, he was flying in the face of the clear restating of doctrine in relation to same-sex marriage," it added.
After the latest ruling a spokesperson said the Southwell and Nottingham diocese was "pleased that the court has upheld the decision made with regards to the employment tribunal".
Pemberton has also worked as a hospital chaplain in Lincolnshire.

www.secularism.org.uk/news/2018/03/court-rules-c-of-e-had-right-to-...

Comment by Stephen on March 27, 2018 at 5:24am

She Survived the Holocaust, to Die in a 2018 Hate Crime

PARIS — An 85-year-old woman who as a child narrowly escaped France’s most notorious wartime roundup of Jews has been murdered in Paris, and the authorities are calling it a hate crime.
The body of the woman, Mireille Knoll, was found on Friday in her apartment in the city’s working-class 11th arrondissement. She had been stabbed to death, and her body was partly burned after her attackers apparently tried to set fire to the apartment.
The Paris prosecutor’s office said on Monday that Ms. Knoll had been killed because of the “membership, real or supposed, of the victim of a particular religion” — a roundabout way of saying she was killed because she was Jewish.
Ms. Knoll was a child in Paris when, in the summer of 1942, the French police, cooperating with the Germans, rounded up thousands of the city’s Jews, stuffing them into a cycling stadium, the Vélodrome d’Hiver. Virtually all were subsequently murdered at Auschwitz.
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Ms. Knoll’s mother, summoned to the stadium like other Parisian Jews, was able to escape at the last minute with her daughter because she had a Brazilian passport, said Meyer Habib, a member of Parliament who has spoken with one of Ms. Knoll’s sons.
Francis Kalifat, the head of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions of France, said, “This makes one feel something absolutely terrible. She escaped the anti-Semitism of the Nazis but in the end her destiny followed her, because she was killed because of anti-Semitism.”
Interior Minister Gérard Collomb said that “to attack a Jew is to attack France, and the values that are the very basis of the nation.”
A number of anti-Semitic episodes have shaken France, including the murder last year of Sarah Halimi, an elderly Jewish woman, by a man of Malian origin who shouted “God is great” before throwing her out a window.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/she-survived-the-holocaust-to-...

Comment by Stephen on March 20, 2018 at 8:44pm

Doone. when you look at the map of Europe with that perspective. Britain seems to have more in common with the Scandinavian countries. I just hope the UK can emulate Norway and be outside the EU but be a member of the Europian free trade org.  

Comment by Doone on March 20, 2018 at 7:07pm

England was destined to leave the EU based on this map

I am always impressed just how much my perspective of Europe changes when I look at this map. Try it! Source: by

Comment by Davy on March 20, 2018 at 1:37pm

Well that ain't nothing new.
Depriving the lower echelons of society  of access to justice.
John Locke and others were noticing the self same thing not only in England but the French writers were also noticing it as well. 
That is one reason my Great ( by 4 ) grandmother was first sentenced to hang but that was changed to transportation to the colony in the Great South Land. Due to  the poverty that was rampant. When your poor you have no access to what others in society take for granted. 
She also came from Londinium, ( Hee hee hee )  

Comment by Mrs.B on March 20, 2018 at 1:53am

Oh that bloody money!

Comment by Stephen on March 19, 2018 at 8:49pm

Poorest priced out of justice by legal aid rules, says Law Society

Study finds low-income families cannot afford representation due to freeze in means test threshold 

Lady Justice at the Central criminal court. The Law Society believes the poorest in England and Wales can no longer afford representation.

Some of the poorest families in England and Wales are being denied legal aid because they cannot afford the financial contributions they are required to make, according to the Law Society.
A study commissioned by the body that represents solicitors criticised the fact that many on low incomes are being deprived of access to justice by the very system that is supposed to support them.
The report, titled Priced out of Justice?, looked at means testing regulations which control eligibility for legal aid and how applicants resisting eviction from their homes, for example, are unable to obtain legal representation.
“Many people living substantially below [the minimum income standard (MIS)] are excluded from legal aid entirely or are awarded it but required to make contributions that bring their income even further below [that standard],” the report’s author, Prof Donald Hirsch of Loughborough University, maintained.

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Around 30% of the UK population, equivalent to 19 million people, live below the nationally recognised minimum income standard (MIS). Poverty is commonly defined as as living in a household with below 60% of the median income. Legal aid is supposed to provide a safety net for those on low incomes.
The government spends around £1.6bn a year on legal aid. The figure has been repeatedly cut by successive governments. The Law Society said the situation is getting progressively worse because means test thresholds, which govern eligibility for legal aid, have been frozen since 2010 while the cost of living has continued to rise. Some of those affected are below the poverty threshold.
Hirsch pointed out that the assumption that someone could sell their home to cover a legal bill is out of line with other forms of state means-testing, such as help with care costs where the value of a home is ignored if the applicant lives there.
The Law Society is asking the government to restore the means test to its 2010 real-terms level. It also wants to exempt those on means tested benefits from capital assessments.
The Law Society president, Joe Egan, said: “No one in modern society should have to choose between accessing the justice system and a minimum living standard. The financial eligibility test for civil legal aid is disqualifying people from receiving badly needed legal advice and representation even though they are already below the poverty line.”
Campbell Robb, chief executive of the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, said: “It is simply unacceptable that millions of people are unable to access legal support because they live on a low income. We must loosen these constraints so people are protected from harm when things go wrong and can build a better life.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/20/poorest-priced-out-...

Comment by Stephen on March 19, 2018 at 4:53pm

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