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Stephen Brodie commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"The next time someone says to me that they are not prepared to take the vaccine. I'd just ask…"
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Mrs.B commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"As I've said many times....if you're still among the breathing, kwitchurrbitchin'."
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Ian Mason commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
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Mrs.B commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
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Stephen Brodie commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"Cant hurry lockdown You've got to have a laugh, haven't you?"
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Stephen Brodie commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"Can't argue with that."
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Mrs.B commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"Yes, but living people will find a way. Dead people can't do anything."
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In these articles 17 experts summarize 150 studies.

Expert prognosis for the planet - we're on track for a ghastly future

"A loss of biodiversity and accelerating climate change in the coming decades coupled with ignorance and inaction is threatening the survival of all species, including our very own, according to the experts from institutions including Stanford University, UCLA, and Flinders University. "In fact, the scale of the threats to the biosphere and all its lifeforms is so great that it is difficult to grasp for even well-informed experts." [emphasis mine]

Top scientists warn of 'ghastly future of mass extinction' and clim...

“[The] mainstream is having difficulty grasping the magnitude of this loss, despite the steady erosion of the fabric of human civilisation.”

Dealing with the enormity of the problem requires far-reaching changes to global capitalism, education and equality, the paper says. These include abolishing the idea of perpetual economic growth, properly pricing environmental externalities, stopping the use of fossil fuels, reining in corporate lobbying, and empowering women, the researchers argue.

 “Growthmania is the fatal disease of civilisation - it must be replaced by campaigns that make equity and well-being society’s goals - not consuming more junk.” [emphasis mine]

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"...abolishing the idea of perpetual economic growth..."

Perpetual growth simply can't work on a finite planet!

(And we don't have the SF fantasy of unlimited, cheap space travel and vast amounts of "nearby" resources.)

I can't help thinking of this poem, but the far future might look a lot less romantic.

There will come soft rains and the smell of the ground,
and swallows circling with their shimmering sound;

and frogs in the pools singing at night,
and wild plum trees in tremulous white.
Robins will wear their feathery fire,
whistling their whims on a low fence-wire

and not one will know of the war, not one
will care at last when it is done.

Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree,
if mankind perished utterly;
and Spring herself when she woke at dawn
would scarcely know that we were gone.

Sara Teasdale

Thank you!

That reminded me of the chapter "There Will Come Soft Rains" from Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles. (One online source)

That was where I found the poem.

Wow--I didn't know Paul Ehrlich was still alive! He has always been concerned about our population explosion.

“Humanity is running an ecological Ponzi scheme in which society robs nature and future generations to pay for short-term economic enhancement today.” Paul Ehrlich

This well-written article explains the issue clearly. 

Greta is right, researchers say

“[M]ost of the world’s economies are predicated on the political idea that meaningful counteraction now is too costly to be politically palatable. Combined with financed disinformation campaigns in a bid to protect short-term profits, it is doubtful that any needed shift in economic investments of sufficient scale will be made in time,” the paper reads.

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