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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I have been an atheist, and likely much longer. There is a fascination in me of those who are sufficiently skilled in language that they structure words into concepts and ideas and proposed actions which grab my attention and interest, whether it is John F. Kennedy's unabashed statement: "We choose to go to the moon and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard," Robert A. Heinlein's blunt expression: "If you've got the truth, you can demonstrate it. Talking doesn't prove it. SHOW people," or Captain Kirk's subtle yet important tactical observation, having encountered and been challenged by the dauntingly huge First Federation vessel: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... Poker!"
Certainly, atheism has had its share of skilled spokespeople, whose words have inspired and driven us, whether it was Madalyn Murray O'Hair, saying: "An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church," or Sam Harris, who noted that: "The only problem with Islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam," or Aron Ra's far more succinct: "If you can't SHOW it, you don't KNOW it."
Consciously or unconsciously, I suspect all of us have learned and grown from such words and many others, becoming stronger and more mature, not just in our atheism but in ourselves, having heard such words as these, and that is the point of this group: not to just deal in quotes which praise and promote atheism but which advance the cause of knowledge, self-understanding and self-ownership. Each of us have likely heard someone say something and think, "Wow!" and resonated to the significance of what they heard.
That's what I want to do here: share, learn, and grow, not just from THEIR words, but our own.
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One suggestion for the main comment area of the group: Please keep your quotes to under 20 lines or 200 words. That way, one entry won't dominate a given page of the comment area. If you have a longer quote or speech which you think is significant, create a separate post in the group.
Please enjoy!
Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Onyango M Jan 29. 5 Replies 1 Like
[Reposting Alan Perlman's suggested speech for Pope Benedict's retirement, which he posted at the now-defunct site Atheist Nexus ten years ago.Archive copy at the Wayback Machine: …Continue
Tags: Atheist Nexus, repost, Alan Perlman, fantasy speech, Roman Catholic Church
Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jan 27. 21 Replies 3 Likes
This one, with its context, is too long for the group comments, but in my opinion the context deserves to be more widely known. You'll probably enjoy it, whether or not you're a writer."Now,…Continue
Tags: Shitty First Drafts, Bird by Bird, Anne Lamott, writing
Started by Loren Miller Jan 26. 0 Replies 2 Likes
I mentioned in the Quote Of The Day comment section a few days ago that…Continue
Tags: logical fallicy, arguments, fact, faith, circumcision
Started by Loren Miller Nov 4, 2022. 0 Replies 0 Likes
The following is commentary, made by Atheist Universe member Doug Hanlon, regarding the Supreme Court of the United States, I presume in response to some of the previous quote postings which…Continue
Nice Comment
Yes, he do!
I am a lover of truth, a worshipper of freedom, a celebrant at the altar of language and purity and tolerance. That is my religion, and every day I am sorely, grossly, heinously and deeply offended, wounded, mortified and injured by a thousand different blasphemies against it. When the fundamental canons of truth, honesty, compassion and decency are hourly assaulted by fatuous bishops, pompous, illiberal and ignorant priests, politicians and prelates, sanctimonious censors, self-appointed moralists and busy-bodies, what recourse of ancient laws have I? None whatever. Nor would I ask for any. For unlike these blistering imbeciles my belief in my religion is strong and I know that lies will always fail and indecency and intolerance will always perish.
-- Stephen Fry
Man has a way with words, don't he? [smile]
Perfect.
A miracle is a violation of the laws of nature; and because firm and unalterable experience has established these laws, the case against a miracle is—just because it is a miracle—as complete as any argument from experience can possibly be imagined to be.
-- David Hume
Total agreement. Miracles, by their very nature, would violate the laws of physics and of nature and turn a world which is run by those laws into one run by WHIM, the whim of whatever being is ordering and directing those violations. When you boil it down, reality is too orderly to permit the existence of miracles.
Stephen and Joan, Joseph Lewis in his excellent book, Against Circumcision argues we don't cut other body parts to keep them clean. We just wash them well. It is a book I highly recommend. One because it is well written and two, I like Lewis.
Why should I allow that same God to tell me how to raise my kids, who had to drown His own?
--Bertrand Russell
Not certain what biblical story Russell may be referring to, though I DO know of one from the Mahabharata that fits. In any case, gods tend to be able to get away with all sorts of shit. Why some people continue to put up with them despite that continues to puzzle me.
Joan I think parents have been fed a lie that circumcision is cleaner and prevents disease. It's hardly their fault when they are persuaded that the procedure is in the interest of the boy.
In 1963 and 1964, when our sons were born, I understood circumcision was an essential procedure for them and had no such idea about our daughter. Both our families expected us to provide them with the surgery. No one questioned it, not even the pediatricians.
Years later, while in the Middle East doing my research on women in different cultures I learned about female circumcision and its painful consequent; I was horrified. Only then did I know of the unnecessary procedure on males and my two sons.
Indeed, my granddaughter had her sons circumcised and did not know she had the option to not have it done.
What are the pros & cons of circumcision on male babies? What are the lifelong impacts on grown men?
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