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Quote Of The Day

A place to post favorite quotes about atheism and other significant topics

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I have been an atheist, and likely much longer.  There is a fascination in me of those who are sufficiently skilled in language that they structure words into concepts and ideas and proposed actions which grab my attention and interest, whether it is John F. Kennedy's unabashed statement: "We choose to go to the moon and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard," Robert A. Heinlein's blunt expression: "If you've got the truth, you can demonstrate it.  Talking doesn't prove it. SHOW people," or Captain Kirk's subtle yet important tactical observation, having encountered and been challenged by the dauntingly huge First Federation vessel: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... Poker!"

Certainly, atheism has had its share of skilled spokespeople, whose words have inspired and driven us, whether it was Madalyn Murray O'Hair, saying: "An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church," or Sam Harris, who noted that: "The only problem with Islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam," or Aron Ra's far more succinct: "If you can't SHOW it, you don't KNOW it."

Consciously or unconsciously, I suspect all of us have learned and grown from such words and many others, becoming stronger and more mature, not just in our atheism but in ourselves, having heard such words as these, and that is the point of this group: not to just deal in quotes which praise and promote atheism but which advance the cause of knowledge, self-understanding and self-ownership.  Each of us have likely heard someone say something and think, "Wow!" and resonated to the significance of what they heard.

That's what I want to do here: share, learn, and grow, not just from THEIR words, but our own.

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One suggestion for the main comment area of the group: Please keep your quotes to under 20 lines or 200 words.  That way, one entry won't dominate a given page of the comment area.  If you have a longer quote or speech which you think is significant, create a separate post in the group.

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Speechwriting for the Pope: Suggested Draft, Farewell Remarks

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Onyango M Jan 29. 5 Replies

[Reposting Alan Perlman's suggested speech for Pope Benedict's retirement, which he posted at the now-defunct site Atheist Nexus ten years ago.Archive copy at the Wayback Machine: …Continue

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You've created God in your own image when...

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This one, with its context, is too long for the group comments, but in my opinion the context deserves to be more widely known. You'll probably enjoy it, whether or not you're a writer."Now,…Continue

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Commentary by Doug Hanlon, Regarding the US Supreme Court

Started by Loren Miller Nov 4, 2022. 0 Replies

The following is commentary, made by Atheist Universe member Doug Hanlon, regarding the Supreme Court of the United States, I presume in response to some of the previous quote postings which…Continue

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Comment was by Loren Miller on December 9, 2022 at 6:47am

...Religion closes off the central questions of existence by attempting to dissuade us from further enquiry by asserting that we cannot ever hope to comprehend. We are, religion asserts, simply too puny. Through fear of being shown to be vacuous, religion denies the awesome power of human comprehension. It seeks to thwart, by encouraging awe in things unseen, the disclosure of the emptiness of faith. Religion, in contrast to science, deploys the repugnant view that the world is too big for our understanding. Science, in contrast to religion, opens up the great questions of being to rational discussion, to discussion with the prospect of resolution and elucidation. Science, above all, respects the power of the human intellect. Science is the apotheosis of the intellect and the consummation of the Renaissance. Science respects more deeply the potential of humanity than religion ever can.
-- Peter Atkins, Nature's Imagination: The Frontiers of Scientific Vision

“We are, religion asserts, simply too puny.” And the fact is that religion WANTS us to be puny, wants us uninformed, wants us ignorant, so it can dominate and control us. The obvious problem is that the genie is long since out of the bottle, and putting him back in is not an option.

Comment was by Loren Miller on December 8, 2022 at 7:43am

Many of us saw religion as harmless nonsense. Beliefs might lack all supporting evidence but, we thought, if people needed a crutch for consolation, where's the harm? September 11th changed all that. Revealed faith is not harmless nonsense, it can be lethally dangerous nonsense. Dangerous because it gives people unshakeable confidence in their own righteousness. Dangerous because it gives them false courage to kill themselves, which automatically removes normal barriers to killing others. Dangerous because it teaches enmity to others labelled only by a difference of inherited tradition. And dangerous because we have all bought into a weird respect, which uniquely protects religion from normal criticism. Let's now stop being so damned respectful!
-- Richard Dawkins

September 11th certainly changed that as regards Islam, and multiple incidents, including January 6th, 2021, did the same for Christianity in general and Christian Nationalism in particular. The kind of us-versus-them thinking that religion fosters has become intolerable and frankly endangers all of us.

And it is well past time that all people recognized that.

Comment was by Loren Miller on December 7, 2022 at 7:40am

Believing there is no God means the suffering I've seen in my family, and indeed all the suffering in the world, isn’t caused by an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent force that isn’t bothered to help or is just testing us, but rather something we all may be able to help others with in the future. No God means the possibility of less suffering in the future.
-- Penn Jillette

And who would want to be jerked around by a deity who amounts to little more than a "capriciously malevolent bully?"

Comment was by Loren Miller on December 6, 2022 at 7:44am

Oh these foolish men! They could not create so much as a worm, but they create gods by the dozens.
-- Michel de Montaigne

They sure do, don't they? Madalyn Murray O'Hair once said that gods were crutches. God as a crutch, a supposedly necessary dependency, strikes me as an interesting concept, and likely a very valid one.

Comment was by Loren Miller on December 5, 2022 at 6:11am

If Heaven actually exists, I don't need anyone to be my real estate broker. After all, what is religion but an attempt to sell you a share in the ultimate gated community?
-- Quentin R. Bufogle

An INTERESTING way to put that, Quentin, especially considering that there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER of said "gated community!"  Pig-in-a-poke, anyone?

Comment was by Loren Miller on December 4, 2022 at 7:43am
The priests of the different religious sects ... dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight, and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subdivision of the duperies on which they live.
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Correa de Serra, April 11, 1820

Of course they do. Their own bible tells 'em to do so:

All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed.
-- John 3:20

What they have a problem admitting is that THEY are among those doing evil!
Comment was by Loren Miller on December 3, 2022 at 8:49am

I am much occupied with the investigation of physical causes. My aim in this is to show that the celestial machine is to be likened not to a divine organism, but rather a clockwork …
-- Johannes Kepler

And it is indeed a clockwork, though not designed by some unseen clockmaker, but wrought from the immutable laws of physics. No deity required.

Comment was by Loren Miller on December 1, 2022 at 6:53am

There is nothing behind the curtains of religions, people put there whatever their imaginations can fathom.
-- Bangambiki Habyarimana, Pearls Of Eternity

Precisely.

Comment was by Mrs.B on November 30, 2022 at 12:38pm

Yet conversion still happens.....even women.

Comment was by Chris B on November 30, 2022 at 9:31am

I totally agree with the ayatollah: "There's no fun in Islam."

 

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