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Quote Of The Day

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I have been an atheist, and likely much longer.  There is a fascination in me of those who are sufficiently skilled in language that they structure words into concepts and ideas and proposed actions which grab my attention and interest, whether it is John F. Kennedy's unabashed statement: "We choose to go to the moon and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard," Robert A. Heinlein's blunt expression: "If you've got the truth, you can demonstrate it.  Talking doesn't prove it. SHOW people," or Captain Kirk's subtle yet important tactical observation, having encountered and been challenged by the dauntingly huge First Federation vessel: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... Poker!"

Certainly, atheism has had its share of skilled spokespeople, whose words have inspired and driven us, whether it was Madalyn Murray O'Hair, saying: "An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church," or Sam Harris, who noted that: "The only problem with Islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam," or Aron Ra's far more succinct: "If you can't SHOW it, you don't KNOW it."

Consciously or unconsciously, I suspect all of us have learned and grown from such words and many others, becoming stronger and more mature, not just in our atheism but in ourselves, having heard such words as these, and that is the point of this group: not to just deal in quotes which praise and promote atheism but which advance the cause of knowledge, self-understanding and self-ownership.  Each of us have likely heard someone say something and think, "Wow!" and resonated to the significance of what they heard.

That's what I want to do here: share, learn, and grow, not just from THEIR words, but our own.

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One suggestion for the main comment area of the group: Please keep your quotes to under 20 lines or 200 words.  That way, one entry won't dominate a given page of the comment area.  If you have a longer quote or speech which you think is significant, create a separate post in the group.

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Comment was by Chris B on August 25, 2022 at 7:07am

Of course they don't care! I may be a cynic but I have yet to find the first person in power who cares. They sometimes start their career with plenty of good intentions, but once they have the power all good intentions are gone.

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 25, 2022 at 6:58am

And the worst part about it all is that I'm not convinced that they CARE about what they have done to the American people.

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 24, 2022 at 6:53am

Faith does not offer a strong link between our beliefs and actual states of the world.
-- Sam Harris

How could it? Faith can embrace any concept and support it, whether it has a basis in reality or not. Reality is NOT a necessary component of faith, and that is why it is unreliable and not to be trusted.

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 23, 2022 at 8:23am

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
-- Christopher Hitchens, “Hitchens’ Razor”

I think the above is essential to understanding the dynamic of how believers fail to deal with us. They tend to make assertions and think that the mere statement is enough to stand as fact, when it can't. My message to them is simple: either have hard, testable evidence and show your work, or Don't Waste My Time!

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 22, 2022 at 7:15am

It is clear that humans are quite capable of killing with or without images of gods bouncing around in their heads. If anything, however, history suggests that the concept of gods makes the idea of massacring your fellow man (and women and children, too, of course) a lot easier to act upon.
-- Guy P. Harrison

The second that someone speaking for an unseen and inscrutable yet allegedly omnipotent and omniscient deity claims that one's “sins” can be forgiven if one simply believes thus-and-so, the weak-willed and schemers both will flock to join such an organization, to excuse themselves of their own human nature.

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 21, 2022 at 8:13am

The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion.
-- Thomas Paine

With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion.
-- Steven Weinberg

Two variations on the same theme.

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 20, 2022 at 8:58am

The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions.
-- Albert Einstein

“... primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.” Personally, that says it all to me. Too much of religion is clinging to simplistic answers to the complex questions presented to us by the universe, and their insistence on "goddidit" as answer to it all is well past becoming tiresome.

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 19, 2022 at 9:36am

If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be lead, like sheep to the slaughter.
-- George Washington

And whether they wish to say so out loud or not, I believe that is what a significant segment of the Republican party of the United States wants RIGHT NOW.

Comment was by Mrs.B on August 18, 2022 at 1:55pm

Very good at what he does.

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 18, 2022 at 6:48am

I get my limits from a rational consideration of the consequences of my actions, that's how I determine what's moral. I get it from a foundation that says my actions have an effect on those people around me, and theirs have an effect on me, and if we're going to live cooperatively and share space, we have to recognize that impact. And my freedom to swing my arm ends ends at their nose, and that I have no right to impose my will over somebody else's will in that type of scenario. That's where I get them from. I get them from an understanding of reality, not an assertion of authority.
-- Matt Dillahunty

I'm not certain that there is a "new atheist" out there who cuts through the bullshit and gets to the point better than Matt. The focus and clarity of his expression never fails to impress me, and I wish he had a far wider audience than he currently enjoys.

 

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