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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I have been an atheist, and likely much longer.  There is a fascination in me of those who are sufficiently skilled in language that they structure words into concepts and ideas and proposed actions which grab my attention and interest, whether it is John F. Kennedy's unabashed statement: "We choose to go to the moon and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard," Robert A. Heinlein's blunt expression: "If you've got the truth, you can demonstrate it.  Talking doesn't prove it. SHOW people," or Captain Kirk's subtle yet important tactical observation, having encountered and been challenged by the dauntingly huge First Federation vessel: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... Poker!"

Certainly, atheism has had its share of skilled spokespeople, whose words have inspired and driven us, whether it was Madalyn Murray O'Hair, saying: "An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church," or Sam Harris, who noted that: "The only problem with Islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam," or Aron Ra's far more succinct: "If you can't SHOW it, you don't KNOW it."

Consciously or unconsciously, I suspect all of us have learned and grown from such words and many others, becoming stronger and more mature, not just in our atheism but in ourselves, having heard such words as these, and that is the point of this group: not to just deal in quotes which praise and promote atheism but which advance the cause of knowledge, self-understanding and self-ownership.  Each of us have likely heard someone say something and think, "Wow!" and resonated to the significance of what they heard.

That's what I want to do here: share, learn, and grow, not just from THEIR words, but our own.

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Comment was by Mrs.B on August 11, 2022 at 1:52pm

True.

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on August 11, 2022 at 11:44am

Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved. - Tim Minchin

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 11, 2022 at 8:06am

No philosophy, no religion, has ever brought so glad a message to the world as this good news of Atheism.
-- Annie Besant

I don't know as I'd call it a "glad" message, but it is far more based in fact than the one that the religionists offer us.

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 10, 2022 at 8:54am

Faith is the excuse people give for believing something when they don't have evidence.
-- Matt Dillahunty

Precisely!

Comment was by Mrs.B on August 9, 2022 at 7:43pm

Faith & miracle....I feel the same about both....totally useless words.

Comment was by Loren Miller on August 9, 2022 at 7:32pm

The definition I am proposing is: pretending to know things you don't know.
-- Peter Boghossian, defining the word, "faith."

This is directly related to the whole issue of belief, particularly unsubstantiated belief or belief based in faith. As has been said multiple times, one can have faith in ANYTHING, which means one can pretend to know something they DON'T, faith becomes MEANINGLESS.

Comment was by Mrs.B on August 9, 2022 at 1:57pm

Sounds like a good word to me.

Comment was by Joan Denoo on August 9, 2022 at 11:53am

The Dunning-Kruger effect goes well with otiose.

Comment was by Joan Denoo on August 9, 2022 at 11:38am

As to the word "free" when referring to surgery, there are protocols that need to be followed. As to the surgical assistant or support staff, their personal life is another matter. Those people, surgeons, and support staff, with imagination, creativity, and initiative, have the freedom to develop new and different procedures.

Comment was by Joan Denoo on August 9, 2022 at 11:27am

Splendid! A new word:

Otiose: adjective, serving no practical purpose or result, lazy; indolent, of no use; pointless, redundant, ineffective; futile.

Synonym: vain: arrogant, cocky, big-headed, boastful, selfish, egoistic, high-and-mighty, conceited, inflated, elitist, inflated, ostentatious, overweening, pleased with oneself, proud, self-important, stuck-up, swaggering, swollen-headed. 

Oh! My goodness! It sounds like these folks who think they know and don't know that they don't know, i.e., the otiose parent wants religion taught in the public school system.

 

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