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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I have been an atheist, and likely much longer.  There is a fascination in me of those who are sufficiently skilled in language that they structure words into concepts and ideas and proposed actions which grab my attention and interest, whether it is John F. Kennedy's unabashed statement: "We choose to go to the moon and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard," Robert A. Heinlein's blunt expression: "If you've got the truth, you can demonstrate it.  Talking doesn't prove it. SHOW people," or Captain Kirk's subtle yet important tactical observation, having encountered and been challenged by the dauntingly huge First Federation vessel: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... Poker!"

Certainly, atheism has had its share of skilled spokespeople, whose words have inspired and driven us, whether it was Madalyn Murray O'Hair, saying: "An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church," or Sam Harris, who noted that: "The only problem with Islamic fundamentalism are the fundamentals of Islam," or Aron Ra's far more succinct: "If you can't SHOW it, you don't KNOW it."

Consciously or unconsciously, I suspect all of us have learned and grown from such words and many others, becoming stronger and more mature, not just in our atheism but in ourselves, having heard such words as these, and that is the point of this group: not to just deal in quotes which praise and promote atheism but which advance the cause of knowledge, self-understanding and self-ownership.  Each of us have likely heard someone say something and think, "Wow!" and resonated to the significance of what they heard.

That's what I want to do here: share, learn, and grow, not just from THEIR words, but our own.

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One suggestion for the main comment area of the group: Please keep your quotes to under 20 lines or 200 words.  That way, one entry won't dominate a given page of the comment area.  If you have a longer quote or speech which you think is significant, create a separate post in the group.

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George Carlin - On Why Our Species Is Failing (1992)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat 3 hours ago. 2 Replies

Besides being a brilliant comedian and practiced public ranter, George Carlin was a adept student of humans and humanity – likely among the reasons why he was so accomplished at those first two…Continue

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A Quote of the Day from Loren Miller dated November 14, 2009

Started by Terence Meaden. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 18, 2021. 9 Replies

Loren Miller: “We live now in the age of science, methodology and logic, where rational thought is slowly but surely displacing superstition as the primary means of evaluating our reality, how it…Continue

New Rule: The Slow-Moving Coup – Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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If Trump’s coup attempt goes unpunished, it will be considered a training exercise. --…Continue

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Brandi Carlile almost dies -- 7/30/21 (Delanceyplace.com)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Stephen Brodie Aug 8, 2021. 7 Replies

To be honest, I have NO idea who Brandi Carlile is (though I suppose I could Google her), but the following brief story of her illness, coma, and recovery are pretty striking. As my friends from…Continue

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Comment was by Loren Miller on December 6, 2021 at 9:11am

And while I'm at it, thanks to all for their birthday wishes!

Comment was by Terence Meaden on December 6, 2021 at 7:11am

As I keep writing everywhere I can, I remind readers and the people that I encounter in friendly discussion, that every baby is born an atheist. What subsequently happens to them and their brains depends on the culture where they live, their parents, and their schooling. I was lucky. My parents were non-practising unthinking christians. The subject never arose. By age 7 when I first started thinking about it (because of school teaching) I knew that I was an atheist and that all theists were superstitious. The christians I met everywhere hated being called superstitious, so I still try it on them when I need to because it is true and a useful tactic. 

Comment was by Loren Miller on December 6, 2021 at 6:27am

Those who know that their beliefs are founded in reason are willing to argue their way to victory and are willing to renounce opinions that do not survive such argument. Those who are aware that their beliefs are founded in faith, on the other hand, are unwilling to submit their beliefs to dispassionate discussion and do not expect to change their own beliefs ever. They are perfectly willing, if pressed, to resort to force to change other people's beliefs by brainwashing children, persecuting heretics, and warring with "unenlightened" adversaries. Religious instruction manipulates the vulnerable psyches of young children before they are able to think for themselves, endeavoring to prevent them from ever acquiring this ability. They never attain an intellectual resistance sufficient to counter the influence of dogmatic precepts, to grow up as free individuals.
-- Bertrand Russell, Human Society in Ethics and Politics

It was true back in Russell's day and sad to say, it is no less true now.  Even with the religious apologists of the current day, ultimately, they dislike their beliefs being exposed to skeptical scrutiny, preferring that their assertions be treated as fact, rather than as a supposition in need of evidentiary support.

Comment was by Mrs.B on December 5, 2021 at 2:06pm

I don't even get what ''spirituality'' means!

Happy Birthday, Loren C. Miller, Jr!

Comment was by Randall Smith on December 5, 2021 at 7:50am

I love it: "spirituality is purely bogus". I've always hated hearing that.

And a glorious birthday to you, Loren, Jr.!! (Tell us someday how you feel about being a "Junior".)

Comment was by Terence Meaden on December 5, 2021 at 7:36am

Lovely, uplifting words, and a Happy Birthday to Yooooooouuuuuuu, Loren.

I have written numerous papers about how religious beliefs and ritual practices developed in the Neolithic Age with the commencement of farming and the need for farmers to seek success from their hard labours with the triumphs of successful end-of-year harvesting and the production of fertile livestock and women.


Failures were commonplace, so a priesthood developed that claimed to control such events. Gods were invented to make it easier for priests to wield their fake authority chiefly for their own benefits.


Most people took and take such claims on trust.

The wise know otherwise.

Comment was by Chris B on December 5, 2021 at 7:23am

I couldn't agree more, Loren! Congrats, and a happy day to you! How long will you remain Jr.?

Comment was by Loren Miller on December 5, 2021 at 6:22am

The argument for a “natural need” for spirituality I think is purely bogus. There are plenty of atheists out there, myself included, who find “spirituality” to be a specious and discredited concept. The root of the word spirituality is still “spirit,” which to me is sufficiently steeped in religion to be unworthy of serious regard. That said, awe and wonder are absolutely valid concepts which I do continue to experience and enjoy. I also include numinous experience in with these and recognize that such events have purely naturalistic causations.

Some time ago, TheraminTrees stated: “If we’re to grow up as a species, we need to address the systems that infantilize us.” I think we need to confront the woo and superstition which permeate our culture, recognize them for what they are, and dismiss them. Substituting new age spirituality for the old guard simply replaces old bullshit with new bullshit and is not a solution.

Is humankind capable of such a paradigm shift? Good question, one I don't have the answer to. I DO believe that accepting irrational explanations for real phenomena is potentially dangerous, and I personally will have no truck with that.

-- Loren C. Miller, Jr., on spirituality

No, I don't ordinarily cite my full name here, but it's my birthday, so I figured, what the heck.

Comment was by Mrs.B on December 4, 2021 at 10:08pm

And great nurses administering the chemo....which was a 4 hour session each time.

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on December 4, 2021 at 9:14pm

 Mrs.B and Terence there are two things I feel when I hear of stories like that, Admiration for the patients and respect for the doctors

 

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