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Bill Maher has been, is now, and likely will continue to be a polarizing figure for a while to come.  He says shit that angers people, hosts guest who have views that are sometimes WAY past Six Sigma, and promotes points of view which may initially sound not just problematic, but downright wrong.  I frequently disagree with him on more than a couple topics, but I still listen to him, because when he DOES get it right, he tends to NAIL it.

And that's what he does here.  Stipulated that a democracy will never be as governmentally agile as an autocracy, but frankly, the US has allowed itself to become entirely too tied up in partisanship, "woke-ness," and the polemic struggle to be king on the mountain, while China is on the bleeding edge of 21st century leadership from more angles than I care to count.

Lincoln said it: "We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country."  And we had better get our asses in gear and do so, because someone else said this:

Let China sleep. When she awakens, the world will be sorry.
-- Napoleon Bonaparte

Have a look here, then you tell me.

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Postscript: the following was among the comments on the YouTube page where Bill's rant was posted. It is relevant as hell.

A fire broke out backstage in a theatre. The clown came out to warn the public; they thought it was a joke and applauded. He repeated it; the acclaim was even greater. I think that's just how the world will come to an end: to general applause from wits who believe it's a joke.
-- Soren Kierkegaard

Well democracy is based on the Equality of all which in turns eschews all privileges as privileges deny the Equality of all.
True Democracy and Pure Democracies do not belong to a Hierarchical structured Society since in such a structured Society privileges are used as a way to  demarcate between the various stratum of it. 


So the reality is there is no real differences between any of the states that exist to-day. Though their political systems seem on the surface different they are not as the FEW govern the masses and the so called freedom within them is all an illusion.

When you do look deeper the difference lies in how they create their law  and apply the law. In one it is the party leader that dictates the law and how much freedom they give to their people in how to act and what they can say. In the other the corporations and the wealthy dictate the laws and they twist the laws so as to make the people think they are free to act as they please and in what they can say.

Democracy starts with the individual when they learn to govern themselves.

Ten thousand years of propaganda makes it hard for the individual to see a better way. 

The problem with "Equality of all" is that there is no compensation for intelligence or engagement with the government that "We, the People" are supposed to supervise.  As a result, Dunning-Kruger comes crashing down like a hammer, and we're stuck with the "cult of ignorance" which Isaac Asimov observed which insists that, "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

I wish like hell I knew of a solution to that one ... and the fact is that I wonder if there IS one.

Excellent. Right on the money there.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Winston Churchill.

The reason why the Tories and Republicans love our form of Democracy is just how easy it is to convince millions of poorly educated people to vote for parties and policies which go against their own interests. The only remedy against this is a highly educated electorate.

Me. Stephen Brodie 

Stephen, though I can't dig up the quote at the moment, I'm pretty sure that James Madison thought the same thing.  The problem is that these days, instead of watching the news, there are people out there watching Oprah or worse: Sean Hannity and thinking they're getting the straight shit.  On top of that, one of the reasons why my daughter left television journalism is that, she felt as though people didn't want the news so much as they wanted their opinions and biases reinforced.

And that's no way to run a democracy.

 Loren you should be very proud of your daughter, it can never be easy to make life decisions like that. I'm noticing a trend here in the UK of working people going against their own interests and believing in the latest conspiracy theory coming out of America and doubling down even when they are shown to be wrong. 

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