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Welcome to Political Visions.
The aim of this group is to learn about other peoples political visions and discuss those visions. How they envision the structure of the political system to be. The roles of the participants within the system. It could be a broad outline view or just an element or sub element of the political system. It is about political ideas whether they be socialistic, conservative, liberal, big government, little government, the role of the people within the political system, the role of government at all levels of your country. What you think should be in a constitution and a charter of rights and freedoms within a society. The obligations that those freedoms and rights impose on you as an individual.
Post your vision as a discussion to make it easier to discuss and understand your ideas for a political system.

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Meet some Republican/Conservative Atheists

Started by Doug Hanlon. Last reply by RichardtheRaelian Dec 22, 2022. 1 Reply

Left and Right in the US love to caricature each other, even demonize each other. This will get worse as the US goes down. But ... it would useful if we got to know the best of the other side, and…Continue

This Ex-Republican Just Tweeted The Best Thread About What The GOP Is About. Ever. (Daily Kos)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Dec 17, 2022. 4 Replies

I ran onto the following article not long after getting up this morning, and even to my sleep-besotted eyes, it was a revelation.  Someone from the Daily Kos community picked up on a series of Tweets…Continue

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Humanity its Return to New Civility

Started by Davy Sep 10, 2022. 0 Replies

I am Equality that knows not rich or poor, or blackor white, or high or low, and cannot, willnot, compromise with man who lords it over man:He is my foe—and I am his—forevermore,fromThe Voice Of…Continue

The Arrogance of Humanity

Started by Davy Mar 24, 2021. 0 Replies

Humanity has the audacity and arrogance to say they are civilised.Oh! You are civilised are you?Then why do you pervert your technologies to commit mass murder, it is called WAR?Why are you hell bent…Continue

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Comment was by Davy on March 10, 2022 at 2:01am

Delusional Man

The only school of genuine moral sentiment is society between equals. – John Stuart Mill (1806 – 1873)

The world is seldom what it seems; to man, who dimly sees, realities appear as illusions, and illusions as realities.

Their first illusion was and still have not shaken off for all their intelligence is that they can be masters of others. The reality is that there is but one they can master “Themselves!”

Their societal structure remains in the neolithic period when the intelligence and knowledge was based on ignorance on the workings of Mother Nature so their first illusion drove them to construct one where it was satisfied completely when they employed another illusion to sanctify and fortify the structure namely organised religion.

Their second illusion is that they can give something they do not have to be used in their economic systems from the future but when the time comes to remit they cannot do so for they still do not have it so they take from the future once again except more to cover their past takings. They in their avaricious illusions did not understand the role that their means of exchange played within their “Indirect Barter System” they used for all to acquire what they required to satisfy their Needs, their Wants whilst desires were fulfilled by judicious arrangement of the Means of Exchange they acquired by honest employment.

The third and most deadly illusion is that they can forego the right to think and allow others to think on their behalf. This leads to where they will quaff the poison of lies and falsehoods in a single draught;whilst only taking truths a grain at a time, truths that their very life depends upon.

Knowledge is the key to thinking for yourself but the masses prefer to be ignorant and unthinking for the proportion of those who think is extremely small; yet every individual flatters himself that he is one of the number.

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on March 9, 2022 at 11:02am

Good one Davy

Comment was by Davy on March 9, 2022 at 9:30am

Just a couple of photo's I created about my observations on peoples mindset  Should the cap fit then wear it.

Comment was by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 26, 2022 at 11:16pm

Well put, Loren.

Comment was by Loren Miller on February 26, 2022 at 8:56am

Davy, social evolution has lagged behind scientific and technological evolution practically from the get-go.  I suspect this is mostly because it is far easier to discover new scientific principles and innovate new technologies than it is to engineer PEOPLE.  People as a group tend to be suspicious of and resist change.  They cling to traditions, whether those traditions serve the people or not, and don't get me started on the whole "power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" business.

I would LOVE to see a society which reflects the right-column answers to your chart below, but I think getting that camel Jesus mentioned through the eye of a needle would be a LOT easier... [sigh]

Comment was by Davy on February 26, 2022 at 2:18am

I am getting tired of people banging on about their advanced technology but totally forgetting about advancing their Societal Structure.
Had your structure changed you would now be treating everyone else as your equal but instead you think you are better than everyone else.
For me personally I am neither better nor am I any worse than everyone else always have but will admit at times in my reflecting on subjects I do think that but then dismiss it.
Here is a chart that shows the difference between an undeveloped Society and an advanced Society.

Comment was by Davy on January 24, 2022 at 6:12am

You come across a  Society that appears not to have a leader? But you also do not have the time to sit down and talk with them.


What would you call it?

Comment was by Davy on January 24, 2022 at 6:09am

True Democracy is based upon Equality of all as is True Socialism  as there is no real difference between the two as the laws come from the people and not the few as there is no group of people that a better than the rest nor is there any group lesser than the rest either. Their leaders arise from them as the know their lore / law and are  respected for their application of that knowledge which displays their wisdom and they are more guides than leaders. Their orders are more imperative requests than commands which the people carry out in deference  to the respect the people hold for their leading guide.

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on June 18, 2021 at 2:43pm

I've decided to rejoin the Labour Party after letting my membership lapse after the horrible treatment of Jeremy Corbyn the former leader. With his resignation, I felt disillusioned with the new leader Keir Starmer. Even though nothing has changed my mind about the way the party is being led I feel I should argue my case from the inside of the party.

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on June 10, 2021 at 3:49pm

Ruth, it's also happening here in the UK The Tories have changed from one nation conservative's into Trump-style populists' and the English people have become suckers for their message. You notice I said English because the Welsh and the Scots have rejected it.

 

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