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An internet group about The Internet.

The internet is both a telecommunication medium and a culture. We have embraced it because of its immediacy, its pervasiveness and its usefulness.

Even though for most of us its workings is equivalent to magic and it's enough to know that it's very 'complicated and technical,' it has become an intricate part of our life.

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The Internet

This is a partial portrait of the Internet. Imagine that at the tip of each branch there is one or multiple human brains operating and that each one of these terminals can be instantly connected to any other, anywhere.

If we could map this image to the surface of the Earth it would make it even more obvious that this network of networks is like a new organ that has been grafted onto the biosphere.

Partial map of the Internet based on the January 15, 2005 data found on Each line is drawn between two nodes, representing two IP addresses. The length of the lines are indicative of the delay between those two nodes. This graph represents less than 30% of the Class C networks reachable by the data collection program in early 2005. Lines are color-coded according to their corresponding RFC 1918 allocation as follows:

Dark blue: net, ca, us
Green: com, org
Red: mil, gov, edu
Yellow: jp, cn, tw, au, de
Magenta: uk, it, pl, fr
Gold: br, kr, nl
White: unknown

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The NSA may have won a round but are losing the war!

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So you think the cloud is Safe?

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Video shows 4-year-old being taken from crib by alleged kidnapper—he was later found dead

cash gernon being taken from crib video

A video shows an alleged kidnapper taking 4-year-old Cash Gernon from his bed in Dallas. Hours later, Gernon was found dead; the man seen in the video has since been charged in connection to his death, according to multiple reports.

Home surveillance footage allegedly captured 18-year-old Darriynn Brown picking up Gernon as the child slept next to his twin brother and leaving the bedroom with him at around 5am Saturday morning, according to the Daily Mail, which obtained and published the video.

Roughly two hours later, Gernon was fatally stabbed, according to the New York Post. A woman jogging in the street reportedly found his body.

The security footage allegedly showed Brown returning to the bedroom in the aftermath of Gernon's death and hovering over his brother, Carter, according to the Daily Mail. He reportedly left the house without taking Carter.

The guardian of Cash and Carter Gernon reportedly said Brown has no connection to the boys and insisted the alleged attack was random, according to the Post. Carter has since been reportedly taken out of the home by Child Protective Services (CPS).

Brown was charged with kidnapping and theft and is being held on $750,000 bail, according to the Post.

The Daily Dot has reached out to the Dallas Police Department.

The post Video shows 4-year-old being taken from crib by alleged kidnapper—he was later found dead appeared first on The Daily Dot.

‘Karen’ throws food at Arby’s worker in drive-thru after being told roast beef is sold out

Arby's worker at drive-thru window

An Oregon woman was caught on camera throwing food at an Arby’s employee in the drive-thru after being told the roast beef was sold out. The employee said on TikTok that the customer is now facing assault charges. 

The worker, under the username @345_mari, filmed the incident and posted it to her TikTok account on May 7, where it’s been viewed 2.4 million times and liked over 400,000 times since. 

The worker told the Daily Dot that she posted the video to show viewers that "there are people out there who will get mad over anything" and that fast-food workers are simply "trying our best."

The confrontation between the worker and the customer, who is out of the frame throughout the video, was already underway when the worker decided to start filming. “I’m glad I decided to film at that moment,” the caption of the video reads. 

“Hi ma’am, I’m really sorry about that. Don’t worry about the fry. It’s on us,” the worker tells the customer at the beginning of the clip.

The worker reveals in the text on the video that it was the location’s “first day of reopening” and that it ran out of roast beef after going through the dish quicker than expected. “This woman was losing her sh!t… over some roast beef,” the text reads. 

The woman allegedly said to the worker, “You’re Arby’s. How the fuck are you out of roast beef?” 

“OK. I’m sorry. I’m sorry,” the worker says in the video. “Did you want any sauces? OK, well here’s your fries. I’m gonna go get that for you.”

Text on the video notes the worker was trying to remain “friendly” despite how the customer was treating her. “I worked there for quite enough time to know even if I have an attitude with them, it’s not going to make a difference,” the worker told the Daily Dot of her friendly demeanor in the video.

When the worker returns with sauce packets for the woman's fries in hand, the customer chunks a sauce packet at her before driving away and allegedly shouting, “Fuck you.” 

The worker told the Daily Dot that the woman “tried throwing the whole bag” of food at her but that only the sauce packet made it through the drive-thru window.

While filming the outside of Malheur County Courthouse in Vale, the worker alleges in a followup TikTok video that the woman was charged with assault after her co-worker who witnessed the incident took down her license plate. The Daily Dot has reached out to the Malheur County Courthouse, and the Malheur County Sheriff's Office. 

“She’s no longer allowed at our restaurant anymore—not even allowed to step foot on the property,” the worker says. “That lady tried apologizing to me … before we entered the room, but I didn’t want to speak to her.” 

The worker told the Daily Dot that she pressed charges because she wanted the woman to face consequences for her actions.

In her followup video, she thanks commenters for the support they showed her on the previous video. “Fast food is like probably the worst job that anyone can have,” she says. “You just have your days like that, where people test you, and, you know, you just gotta take control of the situation and not flip out on them. It takes a lot of patience to be in fast food because you deal with a lot of stupid people.” 

Viewers are lauding the TikToker for “taking her to court.” 

“Good for you for taking her to court! Maybe people will stop treating workers like this,” one said. 

“YESSS AHHH!!!!! Took her to court YES,” another commented. “I feel so proud for some reason.”

The worker told the Daily Dot this isn't the first time a customer has thrown things at her or "throw tantrums.”

This isn't even the first time a customer has gone viral for mistreating a service worker specifically over sold-out food. A woman in March went as far as to seemingly call the police on Taco Bell employees over sold-out Nacho Fries.

The post ‘Karen’ throws food at Arby’s worker in drive-thru after being told roast beef is sold out appeared first on The Daily Dot.

‘The difference says it all’: TikTokers react to stark contrast of social media photos in Israel vs. Palestine

people enjoying a sunny day at the beach, Tel Aviv (l) snapchat map of Israel (c) young boy stands in front of bombed out rubble, Gaza City (r)

A screen recording taken from Snapchat’s world map and reposted to Twitter and Reddit shows stories and images taken from Israel and Palestine amid violence in Gaza in the last week.

Posted on the r/PublicFreakout subreddit, the video is just over a minute long and shows a glimpse of life in Tel Aviv. People share videos from a night out, at the beach, and at brunch. The bustling financial center in Israel is pictured as peaceful in residents' sunny pictures of daily life.

The video shows public Snapchat stories posted from Gaza City in the Gaza Strip of Palestine. One clip shows a young boy surrounded by rumble on the street, the aftermath of an airstrike.

In the next clip, a building in the distance is on fire and smoking heavily after it was hit by an Israeli airstrike. The contrast between the videos and images in each city is startling.

Similar videos were also shared to Twitter from TikTok as creators reacted to the content from both of the cities.

“Idk if I was shocked but… the differences are STARK,” user @obeysyed, who goes by Suede, tweeted after creating a TikTok showing himself react to the Snapchat map.

In the video, Suede faces the camera directly as he scrolls to Tel Aviv on Snapchat’s world map feature and watches the public stories from the city.

“Somebody said if you really wanna know the differences of what’s going on to go to snap map and see for yourself,” the TikTok says.

The video was posted to Twitter on Monday and has over 2.6 million views, 99,700 retweets, and 156,300 likes. Many users said they found the visual contrast hard to believe.

“And yet, Israel is constantly playing the victim card. The AUDACITY,” one user tweeted.

For others, the video sparked a bigger conversation about where the violence will extend next. Some speculated it is only a matter of time before the U.S. government gets involved.

“Don’t worry guys our country will justify going to war over this soon,” another user wrote.

The post ‘The difference says it all’: TikTokers react to stark contrast of social media photos in Israel vs. Palestine appeared first on The Daily Dot.

Amazon says it will continue to ban police use of facial recognition ‘until further notice’

A man being scanned with facial recognition technology.

Amazon will reportedly continue to halt police use of its facial recognition software until further notice, extending a one-year moratorium it announced last summer.

The retail giant told Reuters that it would continue its moratorium. However, it did not comment further on the decision.

The use of facial recognition technology, particularly by the government and law enforcement, has faced intense criticism because it has been shown to have a racial bias. Several cases have been highlighted recently where Black men were falsely arrested because of the technology.

Last year, amid Black Lives Matter protests across the country against police brutality and racism, Amazon and other tech giants like IBM and Microsoft announced that they would halt sales of their technology to police.

Amazon's announcement received criticism from civil rights and privacy groups, who argued that a one-year halt didn't go far enough.

Andy Jassy, the retail giant's incoming CEO, has defended law enforcement's use of facial recognition in the past. In an interview with Frontline in 2020, Jassy questioned whether a ban on police use of the technology was necessary.

Meanwhile, cities across the country have banned government use of facial recognition and civil rights groups have called on President Joe Biden to do the same.

Some members of Congress have also backed bills that would place a federal moratorium on the technology that could only be lifted by Congress.

Groups that have pushed for facial recognition bans said more needed by done by Amazon.

"Amazon knows they are on the wrong side of this issue," Evan Greer, the deputy director of Fight for the Future, said in a statement, adding: "And what does ‘until further notice’ even mean? Basically, at any time Amazon could flip the switch and resume selling facial recognition technology to the police. Facial recognition technology is too dangerous for it to be implemented at the whims of corporations like Amazon. We need Congress to take action and pass a federal ban on facial recognition now."

You can read all of the Reuters report here.

The post Amazon says it will continue to ban police use of facial recognition ‘until further notice’ appeared first on The Daily Dot.

‘Hotel Transylvania’ fandom distraught over Invisible Man revelation

invisible man

The Hotel Transylvania fandom is in turmoil after the discovery that the visible form of Griffin, aka the Invisible Man, is, well, not at all what they were expecting.

It turns out that there's a pretty strong Invisible Man thirst fandom in the depths of Hotel Transylvania fandom, and discovering what he looks like under the, uh, invisibility has not been a pleasant experience for them. Griffin's human form was revealed in the trailer for Hotel Transylvania 4, which was released this week.

It's not really clear why they expected him to be hot, but expect they did, and now those expectations have been dashed to hell right all over Twitter.

Other Twitter users are not exactly being kind about it.

Instead gloating and mockery are the hour of the day.

And some enterprising fans have chosen to reject canon and substitute their own.

There's a petition to make the Invisible Man 'hot' that has already gathered more than 15,000 signatures.

The post ‘Hotel Transylvania’ fandom distraught over Invisible Man revelation appeared first on The Daily Dot.

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Comment was by Chris on August 21, 2019 at 4:48am

Libraries, Electricity,  telephones, the Internet, TV, Radio, Mail (postal service)  seems to me should be a public resource as should education facilities as opposed to private entities.

Having written that if these were public instutions then the public would be able to influence the institutions as opposed to private (for profit) institutions.

Comment was by Chris on August 15, 2019 at 4:11am

May be interesting to some.

May be of interest to some about robo calls. July 17, 2019 Senate Hearing on Combating Robocall See more
Comment was by Chris on August 9, 2019 at 6:50am


Wrong. Your links are nonsense.

Comment was by Chris on August 8, 2019 at 6:30am


As you may know to promote infrustructure  takes individuals support.

It upsets me that some don't know know much about economonimic therory.

My thoughts are that the Internet, wires connecting it should be considered a Public Utility.

It should be well known that the Internet, and the internet was developed as a public agengy. 

Pre Mosaic-- IP.

The same with the electrical grid.

Comment was by Chris on August 8, 2019 at 6:09am

Comment by Stephen on November 3, 2015 at 5:58am

Chris I'm constantly surprised that California of all places is as slow as it appears to be. I've noticed that most of your phone lines are overhead and not buried underground and I read somewhere that overhead cables are hard to convert to fibre optics. You can understand it in the more rural areas but from what ive seen even in your cities they are laid out above ground

Hello Stephen,

Laid above and below ground - or even on tower cells.

Donno if you have a cell phone - most people I know who use cell phones have terrible connections.

Above ground fiber was recently ran to the pole infront of my house.

Don't understand - thought do understand why the road was repaved without  doing it to make it more safe  and effieient - even thought the cost may have been higher at the beginning.


That's another subject though.

Comment was by Chris on August 2, 2019 at 3:16am

On Big Networks.

Interesting commentary.

Comment was by Chris on August 2, 2019 at 3:09am

May be of interest to some.

Tulsi Gabbard, Democratic Presidential Candidate, Sues Google for $...

In her lawsuit, Tulsi Gabbard asserts that Google muffled her free speech rights when it briefly suspended her ad account after the Democratic debate in June.CreditCreditDoug Mills/The New York Times.

  • July 25, 2019

Representative Tulsi Gabbard, the long-shot presidential candidate from Hawaii, said in a federal lawsuit that Google infringed on her free speech when it briefly suspended her campaign’s advertising account after the first Democratic debate in June.

The lawsuit, filed on Thursday in a federal court in Los Angeles, is believed to be the first time a presidential candidate has sued a major technology firm.

In a twist that reflects Ms. Gabbard’s unorthodox political views, the claim that her speech was stifled by Google is similar to complaints made over the last year in Republican circles. Few Democrats have raised similar concerns.

Big tech companies like Google are getting increasing scrutiny by lawmakers and regulators around the world for a wide variety of issues, including their influence on political debate, their handling of consumer data, and the aggressive way they compete with smaller companies.

A day before the Gabbard lawsuit was filed, Facebook said the Federal Trade Commission had opened a formal antitrust investigation into its business practices. Earlier in the day, the F.T.C. announced that Facebook was fined a record $5 billion for deceiving users about their ability to control the privacy of their personal data.

Tulsi Now Inc., the campaign committee for Ms. Gabbard, said Google suspended the campaign’s advertising account for six hours on June 27 and June 28, obstructing its ability to raise money and spread her message to potential voters.

After the first Democratic debate, Ms. Gabbard was briefly the most searched-for candidate on Google. Her campaign wanted to capitalize on the attention she was receiving by buying ads that would have placed its website at the top of search results for her name.

More in the first link.

Comment was by Chris on July 29, 2019 at 9:59pm

Aaron Swatz full movie.  Maybe it should be in the Doccumentaries group, the medical group, or a political group.

Comment was by Chris on July 27, 2019 at 5:48am

Democrat Tulsi Gabbard sues Google over suspension of ad account

The lawsuit adds to a chorus of bipartisan complaints against Google over the power it has accumulated.

Google spokeswoman Riva Sciuto said that an automated system triggered the suspension.

“We have automated systems that flag unusual activity on all advertiser accounts — including large spending changes — in order to prevent fraud and protect our customers,” Sciuto said in a statement.

“In this case, our system triggered a suspension and the account was reinstated shortly thereafter. We are proud to offer ad products that help campaigns connect directly with voters, and we do so without bias toward any party or political ideology.”

The company has the largest share of the worldwide digital ad market, with 31 percent of all digital ad revenue, according to research firm eMarketer. Google’s grip on ads related to searches is even tighter, with 61 percent of the market worldwide.

Democratic and Republican politicians have shown growing frustration with the power of social media companies and Silicon Valley generally. In 2017, Twitter blocked an abortion-related video ad from Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., before reversing itself and allowing it.

More in the above link.

Comment was by Chris on June 18, 2019 at 3:39am

I'll check in with Ning to see if somehow a message through that network would provide an IP address.

Sorry for being grouchy.   I wanted help from the administrators figuring this out - rather than being 'outcast.'

I shouldn't have posted the previous.

Working with Apple find it's interesting how little the technitian knew about time and the calender portion of the system.

None of that compost matters though.


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