Latest Activity

RichardtheRaelian left a comment for Demy
""Happy Birthday!""
45 seconds ago
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"OK! I strongly agree that I am not a wretch, even as I confess that I am a musical illiterate. I…"
30 minutes ago
Stephen Brodie commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"I was listening to a listener's panel show with people from both sides of the political…"
2 hours ago
Mrs.B commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"Yes, Rick was just reading it on his news headlines. It's never going to stop."
4 hours ago
Ian Mason commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"Yet another school shooting "
4 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Joan, I so associate the melody line with the lyrics as regards those songs that disassociation for…"
6 hours ago
Stephen Brodie commented on Hope's group Imagine No Organized Religion
"Beliefs And Consequences, Part I"
8 hours ago
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, thanks; I like "Atheists don't have no songs.""
8 hours ago
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Loren, you missed my point, I disagree with the lyrics of these songs and find them repugnant, as I…"
8 hours ago
Mrs.B commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
8 hours ago
Stephen Brodie commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"The lies keep on coming and coming and coming. James O'Brien: The UK is 'absolutely…"
8 hours ago
Stephen Brodie commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"I doubt the average American Christian knows of that quote by Jefferson because they always argue…"
9 hours ago
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know…"
17 hours ago
RichardtheRaelian left a comment for Jess
""Happy Birthday!""
23 hours ago
Mrs.B commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"I despise those songs along with many, & making different words to the same melody will still…"
Ian Mason commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"A campaign against bullying and hate suppressed by religion yet again. The sick part is that the…"
Loren Miller commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"I am a positively LOUSY diplomat as it comes to issues like this.  Blunt Fact: LGBTQ+ Muslims…"
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"Joan, I have exactly ZERO use for any of those songs.  The Hallelujah Chorus is a screed on…"
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quote Of The Day
"I have made up my mind that if there is a God, he will be merciful to the merciful. Upon that rock…"
Stephen Brodie commented on Sydni Moser's group Coffee Break
"Western University Cowers to Muslim Backlash Regarding LGBT Poster"

We are a worldwide social network of freethinkers, atheists, agnostics and secular humanists.

Welcome to the Crazy

In Texas there's a case going to the Supreme court about parents homeschooling their children, yet really aren't teaching them anything. The oldest daughter ran away so she could go to school, other family members turned in this couple for not educating their children. 

This is what religion is, the gold standard of idiocy. Nothing in history has tried to keep us in the dark as religion would. Anything that subtracts from belief is evil, and belief is all that matters. 

Texas has 300,000 or so home schooled kids; welcome to the next generation of stupid.

Daily Kos

Views: 237

Replies to This Discussion

Home School.

Home schooling, rapture figure into Texas Supreme Court case

AUSTIN — Laura McIntyre began educating her nine children more than a decade ago inside a vacant office at an El Paso motorcycle dealership she ran with her husband and other relatives.

Now the family is embroiled in a legal battle the Texas Supreme Court hears Monday that could have broad implications on the nation’s booming home-school ranks. The McIntyres are accused of failing to teach their children educational basics because they were waiting to be transported to heaven with the second coming of Jesus Christ.

At issue: Where do religious liberty and parental rights to educate one’s children stop and obligations to ensure home-schooled students ever actually learn something begin?

“Parents should be allowed to decide how to educate their children, not whether to educate their children,” said Rachel Coleman, executive director of the Massachusetts-based Coalition for Responsible Home Education.

Like other Texas home-school parents, Laura and Michael McIntyre weren’t required to register with state or local education officials. They also didn’t have to teach state-approved curriculums or give standardized tests.

But problems began when the dealership’s co-owner and Michael’s twin brother, Tracy, reported never seeing the children reading, working on math, using computers or doing much of anything educational except singing and playing instruments. He said he heard one of them say learning was unnecessary since “they were going to be raptured.”

Then, the family’s eldest daughter, 17-year-old Tori, ran away from home saying she wanted to return to school. She was placed in ninth grade, because officials weren’t sure she could handle higher-level work.

The El Paso school district eventually asked the McIntyres to provide proof that their children were being properly educated and even filed truancy charges that were later dropped. The family sued, and an appeals court ruled against them, but now the case goes to the all-Republican state Supreme Court.

In court filings, the McIntyres say the district is biased against Christians and accuse its officials of mounting a “startling assertion of sweeping governmental power.”

Most of her children are now grown, but Laura McIntyre is still home-schooling her youngest.

“We are definitely looking for a little clarification,” Laura McIntyre said briefly by phone. She, her husband and other relatives subsequently didn’t return messages seeking further comment.

McIntyre said in court filings that she used a Christian curriculum to home-school that was the same taught in the private El Paso religious schools her children attended before she began home-schooling them in 2004. She and her husband also say that a separate legal dispute between them and Tracy McIntyre for control of the now-defunct motorcycle dealership made him a biased witness.

Nearly half the states require some form of assessment of home-school students, usually by standardized tests or student portfolios. Less than a dozen require that home-school families record assessments with state agencies to ensure progress, said the Coalition for Responsible Home Education.

State lawmakers in Arkansas this year repealed a law mandating that home-school students take nationally recognized standardized tests, and Utah removed academic requirements from its home-school students in 2014. Pennsylvania, Iowa, New Hampshire and Minnesota have also recently moved to relax home-school standards.

“Part of the problem is, on the political right they’ll remove oversight to score points with their base and there isn’t a strong enough opposition to that on the other side,” said Coleman, who was home-schooled in her native Indiana. “This happens especially in states where their legislatures are more conservative.”

Stephen Howsley, a Texas Home School Association public policy analyst, calls his state the country’s “most home-school friendly.”

But, depending on the outcome, the McIntyre case could change that.

“No parents have ever prevailed in any reported case on a theory that they have an absolute constitutional right to educate their children in the home,” 8th Court of Appeals Chief Justice Ann Crawford McClure wrote in ruling against the family last year.

Will Weissert,

The Associated Press

AT A GLANCE: Home-schooling numbers and regulations

Between 2003 and 2012, the number of home-school students nationwide jumped by about a third to 1.7 million, now estimated at more than 3 percent of all students, according to the National Center for Educational Statistics.

The Texas Home School Coalition estimates 300,000 students are home-schooled in the state — more than one-sixth of the national total. No one knows for sure because Texas is one of 11 states that don’t require home-school families to register. And 14 states have no subject requirements for what’s taught.

Texas mandates a written curriculum providing a bona fide education “designed to meet basic educational goals” in reading, spelling, grammar, mathematics and citizenship. But it doesn’t require home-school students to take standardized tests or otherwise show progress, making the standard unenforceable.

In all, 24 states have rules that home-school children undergo some form of assessment, usually via standardized testing or portfolios of student work. But only nine mandate that home-school families turn in test scores or other assessments to state authorities to ensure student progress is made.

The Associated Press

I am speechless. They don't educate their children because heaven! Really!

Where is the link Neal?

Recent news on this case.

I googled "Texas supreme court home schooling case" and saw several links. With my time limited right now, I followed a reliable-looking link and found that the Court had for procedural reasons ruled for the parents and sent the case back (remanded it) to a lower court for a further substantive ruling.

Don't conclude anything yet; the case is not settled. Remand is a device appellate courts use to tell a lower court to consider information it had not considered before someone appealed the lower court's ruling.

I'm bookmarking this thread so I can later look for more info. In the late 1960s, my wife taught in the Austin public schools and they were better than after the wackos took over the state. More later....

Texas supreme court home schooling case.

May 31, 2017 I just checked and found nothing more recent than my previous post.

Sarcastically, Betsy DeVos, the Secretary of Education will ensure American children are educated to the latest scientificic and philisophical standards the 1600's.   That's too gracefull. Educated children from the 1600's likely had higher achievement than those DeVos aims for.


© 2022   Created by Atheist Universe.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Service