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Comment was by Ian Mason on September 9, 2022 at 5:37am

The only negative effect on me of the former queen dying is that the Prom concerts have been cancelled, including the Last Night which should have been tomorrow. 

Comment was by Ian Mason on September 9, 2022 at 5:35am
Comment was by Ian Mason on September 9, 2022 at 5:33am

The fate of a former Charles  

Comment was by Doug Hanlon on September 9, 2022 at 4:35am

An observation about the death of Queen Elizabeth. (I live in the UK, although I am an American.) In a nutshell: her death marks the end of an era.

Everyone here (almost) is of course shocked and saddened, even though at 96 the Queen was obviously on Final Approach, as pilots say.

This would have been natural at any time.  But I think I detect something in addition to the normal reaction: a sense that her death marks the end of an era, and a transition to a much darker one.

After World War II, the West, with America in the lead, entered on to a Golden Age. (Yes, there were exceptions: the ethnic intermingling that had caused so much bloodshed in the period before the War was largely sorted out, either during it or just after, in the usual way humans sort these things out: by bloody violence.

But there remained one exception, Yugoslavia, where the sorting-out was postponed until the last decade of the century.  [Whenever I see some naive but no doubt well-meaning chowderhead repeating the idiotic slogan "Diversity is Strength",  a grim smile comes involuntarily to my face. Talk about not learning from reality!]

We did well. All our wars were wars of choice, with the exception of Yugoslavia, and the educated middle class could largely avoid having their children take part.

Although it's a rightwing myth that everyone experienced a steadily increasing standard of living [ see ], most of us did pretty well. And developments in digital technology allowed people on low incomes to experience a lot of the advances of the day.

And this period saw de-colonialization, the end of legal racial discrimination, the emergence of women as full citizens, the conquest of several nasty diseases ...  so, all in all, really a Golden Age.

Many people probably don't remember that when Elizabeth ascended to the throne, Spain and Portugal were fascistic dictatorships, the Eastern European countries were experiencing Stalinist terror, and extreme poverty in the Third World was the norm.  Gone, all gone.

Now things are changing.

America is on the way down (which means the West as a whole is on the way down), and the Chinese dictatorship is on the way up. 

America is deeply divided, with people even talking about 'civil war'. (And we have no above-it-all head of state to provide some  stability.)

America's educated middle class, which has done pretty well out of globalizing corporate-capitalism, despises its working class, who have not done very well. And vice versa.

So, although its timing is just a coincidence, I believe Elizabeth's death will be seen as a historical marker for a profound turning point in history.

Comment was by Joan Denoo on September 9, 2022 at 1:25am

In principle, I do not choose to live in a monarchy even though I admire how Queen Elizabeth performed in her role. I wouldn't say I like living in a two-party system with dark money influencing the propaganda that floats through the political air. The Supreme Court has not been a friend to voters when they decided a corporation functions as a person, welcoming money and creating the United States of Corporations. 

Comment was by Chris B on September 9, 2022 at 12:48am

I'm not a monarchy lover but I'll miss Elizabeth insofar that I never saw another queen on that side of the North Sea. Our Dutch queen made a trip on her own and visited a gay bar - I like that.

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on September 8, 2022 at 8:21pm

Well put Kurt. I have a lot of respect for Elizabeth but I have very little respect for Charles 

Comment was by Kurt Neuleuf on September 8, 2022 at 8:05pm


I understand your dilemma, I am an Australian republican.One thing about Elizabeth, she was a product of her time. She maintained the relevance of the  monarchy while the European monarchy  have virtually no relevance in today's society..

She stood for and extolled the national values of the post war era.

Bonny king Charles will have a lot of challenges to maintain the monarchy and carry on from his mother while never being able to fill her shoes.I dare say after some time the republican movement will gain a lot of traction.

As a republican I am saddened to see her go for the humanity  and values she imparted to the world not just the UK.

WE LIVE IN INTERESTING TIMES. With more excitement  to come.

Comment was by Mrs.B on September 8, 2022 at 7:39pm

Sad all the same.

Comment was by Doone on September 8, 2022 at 6:30pm

Okay, fair point - I guess if I had to live with the Monarchy my whole life instead of viewing it from the other side of the world I would feel different.  


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