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Comment was by Ian Mason on September 26, 2022 at 1:41am
Home again after a weekend with my daughter and family. The grandsons seems to have endless supplies of energy. James now speaks English some of the time. Douglas just chatters all the time while running, jumping etc. Now and again they play together . Also, to a reception at the Folketing for new citizens, with junior dancers from the ballet school and a couple of prof. singers as entertainment. Very good.
Then a chance to wander round the building and meet politicians. I fired off a few sharp remarks at a DF (nationalist) representative about their policy of wanting to ban books they don't like from libraries, otherwise just looked round, drank coffee and ate cake. I'm sure that as a taxpayer it's my money being spent so I wanted to get a few mouthfulls back. All in all, I've had a great time.
Comment was by Doug Hanlon on September 25, 2022 at 4:31pm

About sixty years ago, the great sociologist Seymour Martin Lipset noted that of the dozen European countries which had escaped falling into some form of totalitarian rule, ten of them were constitutional monarchies.  This may not be an accident.

A stable, tolerant, liberal democratic society -- where losing an election doesn't mean going to prison or to the firing squad -- is not something that is easily constructed from the crooked timber of humanity.

Some exist in Asia, but they're of fairly recent origin. Except for Israel, the Middle East looks pretty bleak. The nations of Latin America have had a very bloody political history -- it's not clear that the current democracies there (excluding Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela) are stable.  Europe  -- west of the Russian Federation -- seems finally to have achieved this goal. And of course Africa is hopeless.

Stable democracies have to evolve, and be consistent with the customs of the population.  You can't just have a bunch of radical theorists propose some ideal arrangement, and then push it down peoples' throats.  The French Revolution should have taught us that.

The British monarchy has evolved. It was never very strong, because the existence of the English Channel prevented the ruling monarch from having a good excuse for a large standing army.

And when one them - the first Charles -- did try to go against Parliament, he found himself looking up at the sky from basket of sawdust -- thanks to the ultra-religious Puritans of Cromwell's army who, as Macaulay said, "Humbled themselves in the dust before their God, the better to set their foot on the neck of their King."  [All the sophisticated religious skeptics were on the Royalist side.] His brother James tried to turn back the clock, and got chased into exile.

Amerians are unduly anti-constitutional monarchy, because our Founding Fathers were good propagandists.  Instead of blaming Lord North and Parliament for the bad things being done to the colonies, the personalized the enemy as the largely-powerless George III.  A smart move. But it has prevented us from understanding how democrats (small-d) can make use of monarchs.

For example, if we had put the Kaiser's nephew on the German throne after WWI, as Winston Churchill wanted, we might have seen him act as a bulwark against the (republican) Nazis.  (No, my progressive friends, NOT the 'Republican Nazis' -- that's me.)  At any rate, it could not have been worse.

The Dutch monarchy behaved badly with respect to the Jews in The Netherlands -- the exiled Queen barely mentioned them in her many radio broadcasts from the UK.  But the Danish King played a positive role in supporting Danish resistance to (admittedly relatively feeble) German attempts to deport Danish Jews, although it's a myth that he or other Danes wore yellow stars in solidarity with their Jewish fellow citizens. (No one in Denmark, Jews or others, ever had to wear yellow stars.)

So it may be that Britain, and other constitutional monarchies, someday evolve, naturally, into formal republics.  But at the moment, no serious supporter of liberal democracy can believe that these monarchies are any threat to it.

By the way, present company no doubt excepted, it's very amusing to see Leftists who apologize for the Cuban government, the Chinese government, even the North Korean government, and in the past, for the Soviet government -- all of them a thousand times worse than any old-fashioned monarchy -- criticizing democratic, constitutional, law-governed monarchies.  Talk about hypocrisy!  They're against MON-archy -- one-ruler -- except when it's one they like (and one that shoots protesters and starves the population).

An interesting take on the issue of the British monarchy can be found here:

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Comment was by Davy on September 25, 2022 at 9:42am

I will leave you with a few views upon the monarchy from the past.

What can they see in the longest kingly line in Europe, save that it runs back to a successful soldier ?—Walter Scott.

A soldier, such as I am, may very well pretend to govern the state when he has known to defend it. The first who was king was a fortunate soldier. Whoever serves his country well has no need of ancestors.—Francis M. Voltaire. 1694-1778.

Kings’ titles commonly begin by force, which time wears off, and mellows on to right. – John Dryden (1631 – 1700).

Government began in tyranny and force, began in the feudalism of the soldier and bigotry of the priest ; and the ideas of justice and humanity have been fighting their way, like a thunder-storm, against the organised selfishness of human nature.— Wendell Phillips.

Comment was by Chris B on September 25, 2022 at 2:36am

A good video, Stephen, and I totally agree. When the cleaning starts I'll throw in the Dutch royals, they're about the same as the English royals. They do nothing, cost buckets of money and breed like believers. Better start before all their daughters start to have young...

Comment was by Mrs.B on September 24, 2022 at 5:51pm

A lot like that here in Canada too. A person can be respected without all the bowing, & curtseying, & highnessing.....I totally disagree with this BS.

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on September 24, 2022 at 4:16pm

Why the Monarchy Should Have Died With the Queen

It's about time that we got rid of this tired institution 
Comment was by Chris B on September 24, 2022 at 12:14am

Disgusting! And it sounds like religion; the drops of blessings somewhere in the future...

Comment was by Mrs.B on September 23, 2022 at 3:03pm

Beyond's dangerous.

Comment was by Stephen Brodie on September 23, 2022 at 2:57pm

The day has finally arrived when the Tories have returned to Victorian economics. We have more food banks in the UK then there is McDonald's 


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