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Do you wish your stay on earth will be as long as possible, and that medicine will make tremendous leaps allowing you to live longer whilst  keeping your faculties intact ?

Do you believe that whilst you are on earth, you can change things or ideas in a significant way (it's obvious to me that in smaller ways, you will affect things around and near you) ?

Do you see death as having no importance at all, being kind of almost irrelevant...  when it happens, it will happen ?

Do you fear death, even if it's just a little bit ?

This topic really interests me as to how people view death and their mortality and I would really like to get some kind of feed-back...

For me, death is pretty irrelevant and it will happen when it will;I don't feel I have any influence on that except to maintain my body in the best of shape.  I don't fear death...

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Being an Atheist I don't fear death. I read that typically Atheist don't and that mildly religious people fear death the most. 

When I rationalize it, I don't fear death. Death is but a moment, and after that, it's nothingness, just like before I was born. Almost the same as when I was put under anesthesia. You're just switched off.

Of course, we come equipped with a fear a death which is basically survival instinct; if we absolutely had no fear whatsoever, we would have become extinct. So I'm sure that when the moment comes, if I'm conscious about it, I'll feel fear, whether I like it or not. Kind of how the hair on the back of your neck rises when you are on top of the roller-coaster about to take the plunge.

I do not plan on checking out of life too early, I'm happy to be alive and in no hurry to die but I want to live only as long as I'm healthy. In the end, I agree with you, Marianne, when it happens, it happens. Thinking too much about death is not very healthy, I think, neither is obsessing about medical advances, etc. This is the reason I find transhumanism kind of unpalatable.

Thinking too much about death is not very healthy, ....

In the Catholic schools my dad put his kids in, nuns often talked of death and the importance of being "in a state of grace" when it came so our souls would go straight to heaven.

Years after I quit religion I heard Catholicism described as a death cult and immediately agreed.

For 85 years I've been healthy and prefer death to the miserable ends many people have.

Humanity did okay without me for millennia and will do okay without me.

What have I enjoyed most? What else but orgasms?

In second place? Classical music.

What have I enjoyed most? What else but orgasms?

In second place? Classical music.

Very well put Tom. 

The fullness of time will determine my demise. I fear not my ending, it brings me no sorrow. 

I will live forever, it's all my conscious mind can know.

I agree.

Dr. Peter Gasser is the one to see for end-of-life anxiety treatments using LSD and psychotherapy.

For those with too much money who refuse to die there's always the Alcor Life Extension Foundation

Lucretius argues against the fear of death by stating that death is the dissipation of a being's material mind. Lucretius uses the analogy of a vessel, stating that the physical body is the vessel that holds both the mind (mens) and spirit (anima) of a human being. Neither the mind nor spirit can survive independent of the body. Thus Lucretius states that once the vessel (the body) shatters (dies) its contents (mind and spirit) can no longer exist. So, as a simple ceasing-to-be, death can be neither good nor bad for this being. Being completely devoid of sensation and thought, a dead person cannot miss being alive. According to Lucretius, fear of death is a projection of terrors experienced in life, of pain that only a living (intact) mind can feel. Lucretius also puts forward the 'symmetry argument' against the fear of death. In it, he says that people who fear the prospect of eternal non-existence after death should think back to the eternity of non-existence before their birth, which they probably do not fear.

Perhaps what we fear is the moment just before dying, because nature equipped us with survival instincts. Of course Lucretius is right, fearing non-existence makes no sense.

Yes, being alive is habit-forming =)

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