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Permalink Reply by Stephen Brodie on July 5, 2016 at 10:47am

Of course Obama doesn't say anything of the sort. He was just asking progressives who support the same sex marriage bill to show understanding of those who for religious reasons cant bring themselves to show support for the bill. But to my mind this understanding can only go so far. Especially when these same religiously motivated people go further and attack gay couples. 

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Permalink Reply by Chris on December 2, 2016 at 3:41am

That looks like fake news, or opinon pieces barely worth reading.

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Permalink Reply by Alexis Habiyaremye on December 2, 2016 at 5:38am

Any comment about PASTOR DESIREE ALLEN, pregnant, single and with no regret?

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Permalink Reply by Chris on December 2, 2016 at 6:00am

Smells like anti-semitic language to me.

For what it's worth I'm anti semetic in that I dislike Abrahamic religions and the one gowd myth.

Myths of desert people seems to be different than people from areas with higher rainfall and more diversity.

The desert proves to offer distinct and different species.  When in drought though perhaps some don't have the time to explore it.

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Permalink Reply by Chris on December 2, 2016 at 6:21am

Is Isreal a secular nation as its constitution claims?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/12/world/middleeast/neta...

Is Netanyahu a racist?

Why do American  biblical litteralists support him? Perhaps because of biblical myth that eventually Jews will become born again and become xtian therefore Bejesus will come back to save the world from eternal damnation.

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Permalink Reply by Chris on December 2, 2016 at 6:35am

The following shows that a PhD is a worthless piece of paper.

The Ultimate Miracle: The Resurrection of Jesus? John Oakes, PhD

Posted on January 1, 2007 by John Oakes

The Ultimate Miracle

[Note: this is a chapter on the resurrection taken from the book Reasons for
Belief by John M. Oakes Illumination Publishers, International  www.ipibooks.com]

In the previous chapter we looked at the miracles that Jesus performed, examined
evidence that Jesus really did work these miracles and considered what they
imply about the miracle-worker himself. However, we did not consider the ultimate
miracle?the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.

Now, wait a minute. Did Jesus do this miracle? Did he raise himself from the
dead, or did the Father raise his son from the dead? We will let the theologians
work out this question because it really does not matter who did it. No matter
who ?did? it, the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead is truly the greatest
and most important miracle recorded in the Bible.

One purpose of this chapter is to show why this particular event is so central
both to the message of the Bible and to its reliability and inspiration. More
importantly, the purpose is to very carefully consider whether the resurrection
of Jesus Christ from the dead, as recorded in the New Testament, really happened.
We will see that there is a lot riding on this question.

 

BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT

 

Before attempting to accomplish these goals, we need to consider how difficult
a task is before us. The case for the resurrection of Jesus Christ requires
the absolute highest standard of proof.

By way of illustration, consider four scenarios. In each case, someone will
make a claim and we will ask what standard of proof is required to believe the
claim. First, imagine you are at home and your roommate/spouse or whatever comes
in all excited and proclaims that he/she received a bill in the mail today.
Hmm?. You would probably wonder why all the excitement. You certainly would
not be demanding proof of the claim.

The second scenario involves yourself and the same person. This time, your excited
friend is announcing that he/she has found a two-pound bag of chips for only
$1.19. Wow! Let?s tell the neighbors right away. Would this claim stop you in
your tracks? What standard of proof would you require?

The third scenario is just a bit more interesting. This time imagine your partner
excitedly proclaims that she has won $100,000 in the lottery. This time, your
head perks up a bit. It perks up quite a bit, in fact. You would check her face
for sincerity, and probably ask to see the winning ticket?not necessarily because
you do not trust her, but because you don?t want to make too great a fool of
yourself if you admit you believe her and it turns out she was pulling your
leg. You would want some proof. Within a few seconds or perhaps a few minutes,
you would be jumping up and down, or perhaps just giving some high fives, depending
on your personality.

More above if you can hold in your vomit.

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Permalink Reply by Alexis Habiyaremye on December 2, 2016 at 6:40am

Secularism begins separation of religion and state. Israel, like USA are far from that. How can a country with many religious people be practically secular?

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Permalink Reply by Chris on December 2, 2016 at 6:52am

I guess because we in the U.S don't want another civil war.

The war had its origin in the factious issue of slavery, especially the extension of slavery into the western territories. Four years of intense combat left 620,000 to 750,000 soldiers dead, a higher number than the American military deaths of World War I and World War II combined, and destroyed much of the South's infrastructure. The Confederacy collapsed and slavery was abolished in the entire country. The Reconstruction Era (1863–1877) overlapped and followed the war, with its fitful process of restoring national unity, strengthening the national government, and granting civil rights to the freed slaves.

I don't think the U.S. recovered from that terrible war.

Fortunately some in the U.S. realize that there are different belief systems as kookie as they may be.  The war perhaps should be fought in the battle of laws, public optnion and democracy.

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Permalink Reply by Chris on December 2, 2016 at 7:06am

President Obama showing how fragile democracy is.

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Permalink Reply by Stephen Brodie on December 2, 2016 at 6:54am

we in the UK have a state church, the Church of England. But ironically I suspect we are more secular than both the US and Israel. I think its because nobody takes a blind bit of notice of the C of E. If like me you have ever had to sit through a Anglican sermon on a Sunday you'll know how mind numbingly boring it is. 

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Permalink Reply by Chris on December 2, 2016 at 7:19am

Norweigans and other nations also have state religions. Perhaps leaning about religious wars makes one yawn.  I'm board of it, though it seems to be a never ending battle of whits against nonsense.

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Permalink Reply by Alexis Habiyaremye on December 2, 2016 at 6:58am

Jesus's resurrection is actually the foundation of christianianism. In it, most of the theological questions are answered. That's why it's always hailed in each congregation.

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