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"Christianity is responsible for the way our society is organized and for the way we currently live. So extensive is the Christian contribution to our laws, our economics, our politics, our arts, our calendar, our holidays, and our moral and cultural priorities that historian J. M. Robers writes in The Triumph of the West, 'We could none of us today be what we are if a handful of Jews nearly two thousand years ago had not believed that they had known a great teacher, seen him crucified, dead, and buried, and then rise again.' " (From the book What's So Great about Christianity by Dinesh D'Souza.)

I have always believed that all religions had an enormous impact on the societies we live in;  I came across this article which I found particularly interesting.  I didn't read the whole of it;  it is lenghty and some part of it are not so relevant today.  But it was mentionned that in the face of great disasters in the east (or elsewhere) it's always the west, where we see the influence of Christianity whose supposed to help the poor (in fact they don'Lt look at their own) that comes to the rescue.

This is a very interesting topic for me; the influence of Christianity on society which I will keep on delving upon.

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Claudia sometimes am not sure I understand you! Do you believe there is a god or what do you think god is? The theologians have described god in such a way that he is like men except with a bigger ass!

No, I disagree with you and the theologians you mention here. Whereas it could be said the question of the existence of god, can't be proved either way, the probability of one existing is less than zero. But if you intend to use god as metaphor fine with me, but the word god is one devoid of meaning. And if it beyond comprehension, why talk about it? The words energy and matter are inseparable and putting scare marks around them doesn't change that. Where matter exists, there is energy, it is a property of matter to have energy and motion so there is nothing in the metaphor.

Father Andrew, is in business of preaching about god, I wouldn't expect any less from him. And I almost want to agree with him, every man who has a god, creates him according to his disposition.

And in response to Keith Ward, the laws of nature are unchanging and self existent. There is no fundamental other, except in theospeak, which I don't engage in.

As the victim of a thoroughly Catholic education from the cradle through college, if one of my children put my grandkid through my experience (of scaring me out of hell, masturbation for a teen age boy mortal sin, eternal fire --- please... ) I would think a good case could be made out for child abuse. Man -- it's twisted!

In your future searches please dwell upon the efforts the good fathers made to keep the peons of the world sinking in ignorance and invented excruciating tortures for those who actually learned to read or challenged accepted orthodoxy. Where would our species be if the Greeks had prevailed with their sense of reason and cynicism 2200 years ago, and the armies of troglodytes created by religion were not the victors over reason.

 

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