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Electrical Engineer, retired
What brought you to Atheist Universe?
I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include music, especially classical, high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), enthusiasm for cars and motoring, single-malt whisky and biking.

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Stephen commented on Loren Miller's blog post Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay
"I think that change must come not so much in the courts were as you say people are deemed innocent until proven guilty but at the very beginning of the process at the police station, woman must be taken seriously. "
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's blog post Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay
""He said / she said" is one of the toughest issues in the law to resolve, always has been, always will be.  Still, our justice system is built on the presumption of innocence, where the burden of proof is on the prosecution to prove…"
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May the Big Bang RIP commented on Loren Miller's blog post Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay
"Innocent until proven guilty must always come first? Proof of inappropriate behaviour? Is either party wearing a body camera? Are there third party witnesses? Multiple victims? Other?"
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Loren Miller replied to D L's discussion Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?
"The vast majority of religions make multiple numbers of claims through their holy books which are wholly unsubstantiated and thus may be considered as fraud.  As I have stated elsewhere in this post, they continue to be treated as special…"
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Loren Miller replied to D L's discussion Should Governments regulate fraudulent religions?
""Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or the free exercise thereof..."In the United States, at least, any attempt to regulate, control, or otherwise restrain the action of organized religion by the government…"
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"Mrs. B's story is very reminiscent of a Twilight Zone episode entitled, The Hunt."
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Stephen commented on Loren Miller's blog post Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay
"Exactly, Loren, we must always take seriously all accusations of inappropriate behaviour but innocent until proven guilty must always come first."
Apr 20
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's blog post Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay
"There is a difference between believing an accusation, regardless of source, and ACKNOWLEDGING an accusation, as a prelude to moving forward with investigation and possible formal charges.  To do otherwise would be to assume guilt and require…"
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Stephen commented on Loren Miller's blog post Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay
"When I suggested the same online the other day I was told to shut up because we must always believe a woman's accusations. Whilst I totally support the #Me Too movement. this sort of atmosphere infantilises woman and presumes they cant look…"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's blog post Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay
"I agree, Stephen.  I'm all for the #MeToo movement, but I also will insist that accusation is not equivalent to conviction in a court of law.  What makes me wary is that shaming in the public sphere may become a substitute for the…"
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Stephen commented on Loren Miller's blog post Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay
"I never for one moment thought as an atheist we would be immune from this type of behaviour. Whereas inappropriate behaviour is something we should all try to avoid and criticise. I'm a little bit surprised that peoples lives are being…"
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Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay

It was late February, 2018 when I first learned about issues regarding Lawrence Krauss and his inappropriate behavior toward women. Then in the first week of March, I got an email from American Atheists, indicating that David Silverman was being suspended from the presidency of that organization, pending an investigation. One week later, I learned that he has been removed from that position. In both cases, the only forthcoming source of details regarding both Krauss and Silverman is Buzzfeed, a…See More
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Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay

Posted on April 20, 2018 at 7:00am 8 Comments

It was late February, 2018 when I first learned about issues regarding Lawrence Krauss and his inappropriate behavior toward women. Then in the first week of March, I got an email from American Atheists, indicating that David Silverman was being suspended from the presidency of that organization, pending an investigation. One week later, I learned that he has been removed from that position. In both cases, the only forthcoming source of details regarding both Krauss and Silverman is…

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A Never-Ending Battle?

Posted on July 12, 2017 at 9:10am 3 Comments

I have no illusions that there’s an endgame.  These problems never go away.  You have to educate every single generation about this and make sure it doesn’t creep back into our society.  There’s no sense in which the job is ever done.

-- Tim Gill



Just for the record, Tim Gill is a software engineer and rights advocate, who has been an integral part of the thrust for LGBTQ equality.  His influence spans from the 2003 Goodridge v Dept. of Public Health case to the…

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The Tale of a Billboard for the RNC

Posted on June 28, 2016 at 7:05am 8 Comments

It was something over a year ago that I learned that Cleveland was going to be the site of the 2016 Republican National Convention. The prospect of having a bunch of misogynistic, homophobic, mostly white guys invading The Best Location in the Nation was not a welcome thought, as you might well imagine, and that many of them were scornful of the concept of church/state separation did not help matters. However, I was encouraged by some discussion at a meeting of the Northern Ohio Freethought…

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Reason Rally 2016 – Photo Album

Posted on June 13, 2016 at 9:30am 0 Comments

There are lot of people I've met online since I became an atheist, many of them I am glad to call, "friend."  Still, it's something altogether different to MEET these same people in the flesh, or at least be close enough to photograph and hear them speak live.  Being able to do that a few times this past June 4th was as valuable to me as being able to attend the Rally itself, and I am glad to share with you some of those very neat moments here.





Here's Daniel and I.…

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At 9:40am on December 5, 2017, Stephen said…

Happy birthday Loren. Have a great day

At 4:02pm on December 5, 2016, Mrs.B said…

Have a great day Loren!

At 2:46pm on December 5, 2016, Stephen said…

Happy birthday Loren. Have a great day. Cheers mate.

At 8:34pm on June 4, 2016, Stephen said…

Hope you had a great time at the reason rally. Looking forward to your account and pictures.

At 7:56pm on June 4, 2016, Mrs.B said…

Thanks Loren. Looking forward to it since I can't travel.

At 7:51pm on June 4, 2016, Mrs.B said…

Hoping to hear from you & your DC trip, Loren.

At 1:26am on May 13, 2016, Chris said…

Loren, Heres a good place to post your introduction.

I'm glad you're here.

http://atheistuniverse.net/forum/topics/introduce-yourself?commentId=6381005%3AComment%3A172408

At 9:39am on May 10, 2016, Chris said…

I'm sorry to hearthert Brother Richard is ill.  He did a great job with Atheist Nexus.

At 9:02am on May 10, 2016, Chris said…

Hi Loren, I'm glad to see that you joined Atheist Universe.

You are a great person.

Chris

At 2:50pm on April 18, 2016, Mrs.B said…

Good to see you here, Loren.

 
 
 

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