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Did Europe's centuries of religious war result in its secularism?

Started by Tom Sarbeck. Last reply by Chris Jul 30, 2016. 8 Replies

Did long-term monarchs impose their religions?In the US, with presidents' terms limited to eight years, religions might be imposed by majorities in state legislatures or Congress or by majorities on state supreme courts or the US Supreme Court.Continue

Tags: state., church

Firms 'place asylum seekers in sub-standard housing'

Started by Stephen. Last reply by Mrs.B Jan 20, 2016. 1 Reply

Private security firms G4S and Serco have placed asylum seekers in sub-standard properties, according to a report by the National Audit Office.…Continue

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Comment by Mrs.B on January 6, 2016 at 2:39pm

......Or maybe he just wasn't getting any.......

Comment by Stephen on January 6, 2016 at 4:40am
Tom. "It was Augustine who initiated a general feeling among the church fathers that the act of intercourse was fundamentally disgusting." He couldn't have been doing it right. Ha ha ha
Comment by Mrs.B on January 6, 2016 at 2:38am

Yes, Stephen, & believe it or not, that T. Blair thing & his ''conversion'' was all over our news too.

Comment by Stephen on January 6, 2016 at 1:57am
Mrs.B guess who started this problem about faith Schools. It was the big deceiver himself Tony Blair. He brought in these faith Schools, we didn't know about his religious beliefs until two days after he resigned and then converted to the Roman Catholic church. I think he had an agenda about faith schools all the time.
Comment by Mrs.B on January 5, 2016 at 2:30pm

I still say religion belongs in the places of worship, not the schools. That way, the parents have the clear choice to send their kids to places of worship for the religious ''education'' & the schools can get on with ''educating'' everything else.

Comment by Stephen on January 5, 2016 at 11:59am

Tom when I was a kid we had a teacher who was a real puritan protestant and he used to say only protestants had endeavor and Catholics and I suppose everybody else were indolent. As you can imagine he didn't last very long as our teacher.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on January 5, 2016 at 11:52am

The source for that is

Sex and God - Is Religion Twisted? By James A. Haught, in Free Inquiry, fall 1997.

My fellow Toastmasters know I'm an atheist. I recently spoke on a Univ of Tennessee study the six kinds of atheists.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on January 5, 2016 at 11:46am

...christianty had a role in the history of britain, but it has it's place,....

True. In two weeks I will tell my fellow Toastmasters some of:

"Christian endeavor," H.L. Mencken wrote, "is notoriously hard on female pulchritude."
He was right and he should have included Jewish endeavor and Muslim endeavor in his observation. Western religions have spent millenia inflicting shame, guilt, repression and punishment upon human sexuality -- especially upon women's sexuality.
Scholar Reay Tannahill says early Christian leaders made sex and sin synonymous. "It was Augustine who initiated a general feeling among the church fathers that the act of intercourse was fundamentally disgusting. Arnobius called it filthy and degrading, Methodius unseemly, Jerome unclean, Tertullian shameful, Ambrose a defilement." (Sex in History, by Reay Tannahill, Stein & Day, 1980, p. 141)
When priests oversaw the witch hunts -- in which thousands of women were tortured and burned -- church writings reeked of revulsion to female sexuality. A medieval cardinal, Hughes de St. Cher, wrote: "Woman pollutes the body, drains the resources, kills the soul, uproots the strength, blinds the eye, and embitters the voice." (Eros Denied: Sex in Western Society, by Wayland Young, Grove Press, 1964, p. 201)
In 1993, Pope John Paul II declared unmarried sex and birth-control "intrinsically evil." Two nuns in West Virginia battled Catholicism's sexual taboos until they were expelled from their order. In a book about their struggle they say the church loathes the body and hates that people are having sex for fun.

Comment by Stephen on January 5, 2016 at 7:55am

Schools must teach that Britain is 'mainly Christian' and need not cover atheism, says Nicky Morgan

Schools do not have to teach non-religious world views and should let students know Britain is "in the main Christian", the Government has said.

Comment by Mrs.B on January 4, 2016 at 6:55pm

Pleased to join Stephen, thanks for the invitation.


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