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Separation of Church And State

This group is to discuss Separation of Church and State.

Many countries have a State religion and blesphemy laws. 

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Comment by Chris on February 4, 2017 at 9:29am

Trump’s Plan to Dismantle Church-State Wall May Not Appeal to All Religious Nonprofits

Trump’s Plan to Dismantle Church-State Wall May Not Appeal to All R...

February 2, 2017 -- President Donald Trump’s vow to “totally destroy” restrictions on campaign activity by nonprofit groups, including religious organizations, has the potential to boost the political power of evangelical groups such as Pat Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network that supported his long-shot presidential campaign.

The Virginia Beach, Va.-based CBN, which reported more than $300 million in revenues during its most recent tax period, is one of several conservative organizations likely to expand its political activity if Trump can persuade Congress to essentially break down the long-standing wall between charities and political activity.

The ban, known as the “Johnson Amendment,” was named for Lyndon B. Johnson, who pushed legislation through in 1954 after his U.S. Senate reelection effort was imperiled by outside spending from a conservative nonprofit. Under the law, charitable organizations are “absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office.” Groups that violate the law could lose their tax-exempt status.

Other religious organizations that could play a larger role in American politics if the ban is lifted include the Charlotte, N.C.-based Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and its offshoots, which reported about $132 million in revenue, and the Colorado Springs, Colo.-based Focus on the Family, which said it received $86.5 million in revenues. Leaders of both organizations signaled their support for Trump’s positions during the 2016 campaign.

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Comment by Stephen on November 12, 2016 at 9:39pm

20 Quotes From the Founding Fathers on the Separation of Church and State that Will Make Conservative Christians’ Lose Their Minds!

Comment by Stephen on June 1, 2016 at 1:08am

Stephen Hawking: Trump A Demagogue For ‘Lowest Common Denominator’

He’s not the first prominent scientist to call out the presumptive GOP nominee.

05/31/2016 02:58 pm ET | Updated 7 hours ago

Professor Stephen Hawking, the renowned physicist and cosmologist, can explain black holes, quantum mechanics and relativity. But one subject he doesn’t understand is the allure of Donald Trump.

Hawking called Trump “a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator” and said he couldn’t explain the popularity of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee in an interview that aired Tuesday on ITV’s Good Morning Britain.

The real estate magnate’s appeal has long baffled even the greatest pollsters. He all but secured the GOP nomination last week after reaching the required number of delegates to put him over the top.

Hawking isn’t the first prominent scientist to slam Trump and his Republican brethren. In April, Bill Nye called out the party’s leadership for its deep-seated climate change denial, despite near universal agreement from the world’s leading scientists that the planet is warming, and humans are the prime cause.

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Comment by Chris on May 26, 2016 at 4:22am

Sorry for the previous link with Nazi references.

Here's the letter:

Comment by Chris on May 26, 2016 at 3:53am

The "So Help Me God" portion of oath was never in my swear in's.

They were meetings where I signed "I, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter."

The ragamarole, Kabookie dance, raising the right hand, and placing the hand on the bible is showmanship.;
Comment by Chris on May 26, 2016 at 3:30am

 James Smith,

I recall that President Obama used MLK's Bible for the Inaguration.

I think the Oath of Office should be placed on the Constitution, or a facsimiie of it.

Comment by Chris on May 26, 2016 at 3:24am

Good for Newdow.

My oath and other oaths such as to testify in court don't always include the : "So Help Me God" portion.

Comment by Neal on April 3, 2016 at 11:56am

Roberts added to the swearing-in ceremony with Obama these last words "So help you God." Michael Newdow filed a federal lawsuit on that, didn't go anywhere. Life in a theocracy. 

Comment by Stephen on April 3, 2016 at 11:06am

It's not just a privilege for Christians that courts incorporate Christian beliefs and text into legal procedures, but instead its a form of supremacy. they are in affect receiving official state approval.

Comment by James Smith on April 3, 2016 at 8:06am

So there is precedent.  Too bad it will be a long time before we see another president-elect with the cojones to defy the wrath of the religious reich.


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