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Secularism in the UK and Europe.and all those lucky places that doesnt have Trumps as its leader


Secularism in the UK and Europe.and all those lucky places that doesnt have Trumps as its leader

To show that Secularism and Freethought are alive and well in the United Kingdom and Europe.

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Did Europe's centuries of religious war result in its secularism?

Started by May the Big Bang RIP. Last reply by Chris Jul 30, 2016. 8 Replies

Did long-term monarchs impose their religions?In the US, with presidents' terms limited to eight years, religions might be imposed by majorities in state legislatures or Congress or by majorities on state supreme courts or the US Supreme Court.Continue

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Firms 'place asylum seekers in sub-standard housing'

Started by Stephen. Last reply by Mrs.B Jan 20, 2016. 1 Reply

Private security firms G4S and Serco have placed asylum seekers in sub-standard properties, according to a report by the National Audit Office.…Continue

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Comment by Suzanna on June 24, 2018 at 4:47pm

Haha yes, well the bit about a spiritual fire got me. I know they say fight fire with fire, but they give the intelligent religious people a bad name. 

Comment by Stephen on June 24, 2018 at 3:26pm

You sound like a science geek Suzanna haha

I bet it will cost a lot to rebuild but I'm sure a good chunk of will come from the taxpayer 

Comment by Suzanna on June 24, 2018 at 2:24pm

Nope, also notice in the photo that the bit that didn't get burnt is right next to the stairs. Heat rises, it just travelled upwards, it was the path of lead resistance. Bet it's going to cost a lot to fix though. 

Comment by Mrs.B on June 24, 2018 at 12:53am

I notice these fires aren't prevented......

Comment by Stephen on June 23, 2018 at 10:53pm

It doesn't matter that the whole Church is nearly destroyed because one room is relatively unharmed it must be a sign from god.

Newport church's prayer room survives devastating fire

The Bethel Community Church prayer room (right) survived relatively unscathed in the devastating fire which tore through the church.

Comment by Mrs.B on June 22, 2018 at 7:08pm

Religion belongs in places of worship.....simple as that

Comment by Stephen on June 22, 2018 at 4:03pm

Pew survey: 60% support separation of religion and government in UK

Six out of ten adults in the UK believe religion should be kept separate from government policy, including a majority of moderately committed Christians, according to the Pew Research Centre.
According to survey data published in Pew's report Being Christian in Western Europe this week, 60% agree that religion should be "kept separate from government policies". Just 38% said "government policies should support religious values and beliefs".
Eighty-one per cent of the religiously unaffiliated supported separation, along with 59% of Christians with 'low levels of commitment' and 55% of Christians with 'moderate levels of commitment'.
The survey also suggested high levels of support for social policies traditionally opposed by religious groups. Almost eight in ten people in the UK support same-sex marriage, including more than 80% of the religiously unaffiliated and Christians with low or moderate levels of commitment. Just 41% of highly-committed Christians agreed.
More than eight in ten support legal abortion, including more than 80% of the religiously unaffiliated and Christians with low or moderate levels of commitment. Half of committed Christians agreed.
National Secular Society chief executive Stephen Evans said the data showed "comfortable public support for the most basic secularist principle".
"The people of the UK broadly agree that religion shouldn't play a part in public policy. That's encouraging. But meanwhile religion remains stubbornly entrenched within our public life. The Church of England is established, bishops retain places in the House of Lords as of right and, despite declining religiosity, the government remains committed to faith schools.
"We still see all too often that those who make public policy retain a deferential attitude towards religion. They should catch up with the public."
Last year the NSS called for a major rethink of religion's public role in its publication Rethinking religion and belief in public life: a manifesto for change.
Pew's findings are similar to those outlined in a YouGov poll on Christmas Day 2017, when 62% of British people said no religious clerics should have "an automatic right to seats" in the UK legislature. Sixty-five per cent said politicians should keep their political beliefs cordoned off from their decision-making.
The Pew survey found that just 18% of people in the UK are Christians who go to church services at least once a month but 55% are 'non-practising Christians'.
Survey data on the religious affiliation of the UK population has tended to vary depending on the nature of questions that are asked.
Last year the British Social Attitudes survey found that a majority of Britons had no religion. In that survey almost 3,000 people were asked: 'Do you regard yourself as belonging to any particular religion?' If respondents said yes, they were asked which one, without being given a list of religions.

Comment by Stephen on June 22, 2018 at 3:54pm

NHS withdraws faith-based fasting advice after NSS request for review

NHS Choices has removed advice which drew heavily on Islamic theology from its website and will consider replacing it after the National Secular Society requested its review.
Earlier this month we asked NHS Choices to reconsider the contents of a page on its website which purported to advise people on fasting during Ramadan. We said the advice breached its standards of impartiality and commitment to evidence-based information.
The advice included lines such as "children are required to fast when they reach puberty". On the question 'Can I use an asthma inhaler during Ramadan?' it said "Muslim experts have differing opinions on this issue".
It also said breastfeeding mothers should make up for their lack of fasting at a later date, people on dialysis should "perform fidyah" (pay a form of 'compensation' for missing the fast) and it was "a good idea" for children to "practise fasting for a few hours at a time".
NHS Choices said the advice was "put together by medical experts and Islamic scholars and researchers".
In our correspondence we asked NHS Choices to "remove references to theological teachings" to comply with its own stated policy of "providing objective, impartial and evidence-based information on healthcare".
NHS Choices has now taken down the page and told us it will consider how it could "better meet user needs around this topic", including by possibly producing new content.
Dr Antony Lempert, the coordinator of the NSS's Secular Medical Forum, welcomed the decision to withdraw the guidance.
"Whether or not Muslim scholars have differing opinions on health-related issues, it is vital that patients receive accurate, safe medical advice. Some patients, relying on NHS Choices advice, might have put their health at serious risk by not using their asthma inhalers for example.
"All medical advice produced by NHS Choices must be based on best medical practice."
Stephen Evans, the NSS's chief executive, said: "Many British Muslims choose to fast during Ramadan and the NHS may well have a legitimate purpose in producing content for their benefit. But that advice should be impartial and balanced, not based on Islamic theology.
"The advice the NHS has now removed was not appropriate for a secular body relied upon to help patients and the public make informed choices about their health. The NHS is right to review it and we'll keep a close eye on any new advice that it may promote in the future."
The information was last reviewed in 2017 and the next review was not due until April 2020. This year's Ramadan finished last week.

Comment by Stephen on June 12, 2018 at 4:40pm

Jack Renshaw admits planning to murder MP Rosie Cooper

An alleged member of a banned neo-Nazi group has admitted planning to murder a Labour MP in an act of what he termed "white jihad", a jury has heard.

Jack Renshaw, 23, pleaded guilty at the Old Bailey to preparing an act of terrorism by buying a machete to kill West Lancashire MP Rosie Cooper.
He also admitted making a threat to kill police officer Victoria Henderson.
Renshaw, of Skelmersdale, Lancashire, is one of six men on trial who deny being in the group National Action.
The other accused are: Christopher Lythgoe, 32, and Michal Trubini, 35, both from Warrington; Matthew Hankinson, 24, from Newton-le-Willows, Merseyside; Andrew Clarke, 33, from Prescot, Merseyside, and Garron Helm, 24, from Seaforth, Merseyside.
Mr Lythgoe also denies encouragement to murder by allegedly giving Renshaw permission to kill Ms Cooper on behalf of the group.
Renshaw had previously denied the two charges, but changed his pleas at the start of his trial.
Prosecutors said Renshaw wanted to take hostages to lure Det Con Henderson to the scene so he could kill her too.
But the court heard the plan was foiled after a disenchanted former member of National Action reported the threat to Hope Not Hate, an organisation seeking to combat extreme right-wing political racism

The six men deny membership of a proscribed organisation

Comment by Mrs.B on June 4, 2018 at 10:20pm

Religion & school should not be together in any form. Religion belongs in places of worship, nowhere else.


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