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The Denisova genome

Started by Adriana. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Apr 23. 7 Replies

Remember the 40,000 year-old Denisova finger bone that yielded sufficient DNA to…Continue

Tags: evolution, human, genome, DNA, hominin

Do You Need The Universe To Have Had A Beginning?

Started by Tom Sarbeck. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Nov 19, 2016. 31 Replies

Many if not all human societies have origin myths and they differ greatly.Several years ago a San Francisco-born-and-raised woman told me she is a materialist.An hour ago a woman who was raised a Jehovah Witness and has left that faith told me the…Continue

Tags: cosmology, cosmogeny, evidence, need, universe

Florida schoolgirl charged with felonies for science experiment

Started by Neal. Last reply by Chris Sep 27, 2016. 3 Replies

No science for you woman! Photo: FreeLearningLife - FlickrWednesday, May 1, 2013 -…Continue

Tags: felony, a, becomes, experiment, science

Mandating Scientific Discovery Never Works But politicians can’t seem to grasp that.

Started by Neal. Last reply by Chris Aug 31, 2016. 4 Replies

GOP decides that research should be legislated. Usual nonsense.By Lawrence Krauss|Posted Friday, June 21, 2013, at 7:30 AM…Continue

Tags: work, doesn't, research, science, mandating

Science Bits, News, Videos

Started by Adriana. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Aug 24, 2016. 1364 Replies

This discussion is to have a recurrent thread for science news, tidbits, quick…Continue

Tags: science videos, science quick facts, science news

Tully Monster

Started by Mrs.B. Last reply by Mrs.B Mar 17, 2016. 2 Replies

Solving the mystery of the Tully MonsterPosted: 16 Mar 2016 12:13 PM PDTThe Tully…Continue

Super weeds in the US

Started by Davy. Last reply by Chris Aug 18, 2014. 1 Reply

New York (AFP) - The United States is facing an epidemic of herbicide-resistant "superweeds" that some activists and researchers are blaming on GMO's, an accusation rejected by industry giants.According to a recent study, the situation is such that…Continue

Tags: monsanto, chemical, herbicide, GMO, superweed

Platypus Godzilla.

Started by Davy. Last reply by Davy Nov 20, 2013. 5 Replies

And you thought the platypus was a nice, cuddly little monotreme. You would not have thought so 5 to 15 million years ago. Palaeontologists have uncovered the fossil of a platypus that looks as though it is on steroids.  The platypus dub the…Continue

Tags: Palaeontologists, Godzilla, platypus

Aussie algae fuel green oil hope

Started by Davy Oct 20, 2013. 0 Replies

Aussie algae fuel green oil hopeDespite the claims of some, commercially viable fuels from algae have not yet been developed. But newly trialled native algae species provide real hope, a Queensland scientist has found.Dr Evan Stephens and the team…Continue

Tags: algae, hope, bio-fuel, East, middle

Mystery moss rediscovered

Started by Davy. Last reply by Davy Oct 20, 2013. 2 Replies

News from James Cook University. Mystery moss rediscoveredA botanical puzzle more than 150 years old could soon be solved, thanks to a discovery by a second-year botany student in Queensland’s far north.James Cook University student Megan Grixti…Continue

Tags: botany, student, sorapilla, papuana, 150-years

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Comment by Stephen on March 28, 2017 at 6:02pm

Tom I don't need lessons in the meaning of the term "Crocodile tears"

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on March 28, 2017 at 5:54pm
Chris, there are people less self-interested than Krauss and better qualified to speak for the state of science in America FOR HALF A CENTURY.

Check "crocodile tears" in Wikipedia.
Comment by Stephen on March 28, 2017 at 5:35pm

Tom even if Krauss and the "Bangers" as you call them is wrong about the Big Bang doesn't mean he's wrong about the current state of Science in Trumps America, and the danger this holds for the future.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on March 28, 2017 at 5:23pm
Stephen, don't cry for Lawrence Krauss until you have read AND REFLECTED ON the closing chapters of Eric Lerner's "The Big Bang Didn't Happen.

Lerner argues that Bangers (theoretical and particle physicists) and their deduction-only methods have returned cosmology and some of physics to the faith-dominated Middle Ages.

Krauss' tears for the rest of culture are crocodile tears. He is solidly a Banger and his prose is as muddled as that of a priest trying to explain the one-is-three and three-are-one Trinity.
Comment by Stephen on March 28, 2017 at 4:36pm

Plaque designed by Carl Sagan and Frank Drake, currently heading out of the Solar System aboard Pioneer 10. Credit: NASA Ames Research Center Wikimedia

Plaque designed by Carl Sagan and Frank Drake, currently heading out of the Solar System aboard Pioneer 10. Credit: NASA Ames Research Center Wikimedia

Killing Science and Culture Doesn't Make the Nation Stronger

Massive funding cuts in the president's proposed budget could be more devastating than any threat posed by illegal immigrants

Scientists throughout the country across a wide spectrum of fields, from biochemists to physicists, are bemoaning the potentially devastating impact on science and technology in the United States of President Trump’s proposed budget request to Congress. As much as the scientific enterprise, and with it the development of new technologies necessary for the long term economic health and security of the nation will be hobbled should the budget requests be approved, the budget—which purports to strengthen our security via large increases in national defense and homeland security—paradoxically undermines the nations fundamental strength by presenting a broad attack on our culture that could be more devastating than any threat posed by a wave of illegal immigrants.

The President’s budget reflects a consistent and fundamental vision about American strength that is fundamentally at odds with a vision presented by almost 50 years ago by the physicist Robert Wilson, the first director of the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory near Chicago at which a large particle accelerator was being built. When testifying before Congress about the machine and its cost, Wilson was asked if it completion would aid in the defense of the nation. His answer is striking.

No Sir…I don’t believe so…. It has only to do with the respect with which we regard one another, the dignity of men, our love of culture... It has to do with are we good painters, good sculptors, great poets? I mean all the things we really venerate in our country and are patriotic about. It has nothing to do directly with defending our country except to make it worth defending.

read:https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/killing-science-and...

Comment by Chris on March 23, 2017 at 7:57pm

Will Betsy DeVos' (Trumps Secretary of Education) promotion of school vouchers-religious schools further divide the U.S. idea of Seperaton of Church and State?

Trump doesn't seem religious. He seems about corporate power.

The U.S. school system benifits the public at large without much religious bias. Since public schools are democratic institiutions student generally have a blanced - democratic education.

Transfering schools to the hands of religious institution and other profitters is a great money maker.

Trumps idea of education seems evident with the law suit against him.

Former Trump University Workers Call the School a ‘Lie’ and a ‘Sche...

"In blunt testimony revealed on Tuesday, former managers of Trump University, the for-profit school started by Donald J. Trump, portray it as an unscrupulous business that relied on high-pressure sales tactics, employed unqualified instructors, made deceptive claims and exploited vulnerable students willing to pay tens of thousands for Mr. Trump’s insights.

One sales manager for Trump University, Ronald Schnackenberg, recounted how he was reprimanded for not pushing a financially struggling couple hard enough to sign up for a $35,000 real estate class, despite his conclusion that it would endanger their economic future. He watched with disgust, he said, as a fellow Trump University salesman persuaded the couple to purchase the class anyway..."


Comment by Stephen on March 22, 2017 at 8:34pm

Thank you Tom    your reply to my post was a really interesting read. Well researched  my friend.

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on March 22, 2017 at 7:40pm
It's reasonable to conclude that religiosity implies some hostility to any pursuit that places a high value on evidence.
Comment by Tom Sarbeck on March 22, 2017 at 7:35pm
Stephen, your post stirred my curiosity about religiosity and education generally. A search revealed
1) that religiously-affilated colleges are concerned enough to research the subject, and
2) the following on religiosity and success in college

The Bad: Sectarian Religion, Biblical Fundamentalism, and Educational Attainment

Studies of students enrolled in college, and especially those which focus on students enrolled in religious or elite institutions, cannot fully convey the effects of religious factors on college success. Most studies of the effects of religion on college success focus on personal religiosity or on religious participation, and these indicators are likely to produce positive effects. In contrast, more sophisticated longitudinal research shows that sectarian religious affiliation and biblical fundamentalism—beliefs in the inerrant truth of religious sacred texts—have a substantial negative effect on educational attainment. (Darnell & Sherkat 1997; Sherkat & Darnell 1999; Glass & Jacobs 2005). Sectarian affiliation and biblical fundamentalism have an especially negative impact on the educational attainment of women (Sherkat & Darnell 1999; Glass & Jacobs 2005). In sectarian and fundamentalist religious communities young women are expected to marry early, have many children, and be primarily responsible for childcare (Roof & McKinney 1987; Sherkat 2007). Even if young sectarian and fundamentalist people choose to attend college, sectarian and fundamentalist Christians are more likely to choose religious colleges, which have fewer options for majors, lower prestige, and are more costly. Finally, the narrowing of social networks and the restriction of information sources advocated in sectarian and fundamentalist religious groups is associated with smaller vocabularies (Sherkat 2006), which can undermine academic success.
Religious activists argue that sectarian and fundamentalist Christianity is at war with secular institutions, and particularly embattled with secular education. This perception has some merit, since higher educational attainment is predictive of defection from fundamentalist Christian beliefs and sectarian religious organizations (Sherkat 1998; Sherkat & Wilson 1995). Beginning in high school, sectarian Protestants and biblical fundamentalists have been shown to be less likely to take college preparatory coursework. Predictably, students who avoid taking courses like biology, chemistry, calculus, and literature in high school are less likely to successfully complete college (Darnell and Sherkat 1997).
Comment by Stephen on March 22, 2017 at 11:42am

Religious students perform worse in math & science – study

Students who opt to enhance their spiritual life may be hindering their academic knowledge, according to a new study which found a negative link between religion and performance in science and mathematics.

The study, jointly conducted by researchers at Leeds Beckett University and the University of Missouri, ranked 82 countries by their ‘religiosity score’ on a scale of zero to 10.

Levels of religiosity were determined using questionnaires carried out in the World Values Survey and the European Social Survey among the adult population.

The most religious countries were found to be Jordan, Yemen, Egypt, Indonesia and Qatar. Meanwhile, the Czech Republic, Japan, Estonia, Sweden and Norway are the most secular.

The research also assessed levels of school performance in mathematics and science, based on scores from children between 14 and 15 years of age.

"Analysis of the data sets allowed conclusions to be drawn about international levels of religiosity, schooling and educational performance, and levels of human development (measures in regard to health, education, and income)," Leeds Beckett University wrote in a press release. 

Read more= read:https://www.rt.com/news/381663-religious-students-math-science/

 
 
 

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