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Political Visions.

Welcome to Political Visions.
The aim of this group is to learn about other peoples political visions and discuss those visions. How they envision the structure of the political system to be. The roles of the participants within the system. It could be a broad outline view or just an element or sub element of the political system. It is about political ideas whether they be socialistic, conservative, liberal, big government, little government, the role of the people within the political system, the role of government at all levels of your country. What you think should be in a constitution and a charter of rights and freedoms within a society. The obligations that those freedoms and rights impose on you as an individual.
Post your vision as a discussion to make it easier to discuss and understand your ideas for a political system.

Members: 18
Latest Activity: Nov 5, 2014

Discussion Forum

Does Political Democracy Foreshadow Economic Democracy?

Started by Tom Sarbeck. Last reply by Jaume Nov 5, 2014. 7 Replies

For eons, the bigger and stronger ate the smaller and weaker. The surviving smaller and weaker gradually devised a relationship in which they would not be eaten, and named it democracy. (Instead of…Continue

Tags: politics, economics, democracy, capitalism


Started by Davy. Last reply by Stephen Brodie May 22, 2014. 47 Replies

QuestionsThe following questions are questions that I've been thinking upon for a long time what are your thoughts on the questions and Why!I'll set them so that you can reply to each…Continue

Tags: thinking, why, questions, Thoughts

Your political Compass

Started by Davy. Last reply by doone May 18, 2014. 2 Replies

Ever wonder where which way your political compass points?Take the test here and see the direction the wind blows for you.The political…Continue

Tags: wing, right, left, compass, Political


Started by Davy. Last reply by Chris Oct 5, 2012. 12 Replies

DEMOCRACYA democracy has to be a SECULAR State to ensure that laws passed by your parliament do not interfere with rights and obligations of one person or group of people within your society. The…Continue

Tags: council, parliament, government, Democracy

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Comment by Stephen Brodie on June 29, 2014 at 8:44pm

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people"

This is Karl Marx’s famous quote but do we really understand what he was trying to get across.

to my mind he was saying how hard it was going to be to change thousands of years of delusion, he wasn’t insulting poor working class people for believing in god he understood that it was a salve against the harsher nature of reality and grinding poverty of the world they live in. but there’s no excuse for well educated people to ignore logic and continue to believe in a deity      

Comment by Davy on October 22, 2013 at 7:02pm

Haven't you heard of the Battle of Long Tan. Battle of Long Tan.

Where The action was fought between Australian forces and Viet Cong and North Vietnamese units after 108 men from D Company, 6th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment (6 RAR) clashed with a force of 1,500 to 2,500 men from the Viet Cong 275th Regiment, possibly reinforced by at least one North Vietnamese battalion, and D445 Provincial Mobile Battalion

The draft was abandoned when we pulled out of Nam!

I have no idea about the present local opinion on our involvement in Afghanistan!

Comment by Richard Treehockowitz on October 22, 2013 at 4:53pm


  Alrighty then! Thanks to you I've already leraned a bit more about two things - I was unaware that Australia was involved in the Viet Nam "conflict", and I also did not know that Australia had a draft.

   I know that there were Australian troops deployed in the unfortunately ongoing Middle East fiasco, which was largely a result of American imperialistic "empire building" (or would that be more along the lines of maintenance?), with some fairly controversial support from Great Britain. 

  So, do they still employ the conscription method in Australia? If so, what is the overall consensus regarding the Middle Eastern involvement? I'm sure this questionable military action has cost your country valuable lives and resources which certainly could have been put to better use otherwise.

  Sadly the same can obviously be said for our own once-great nation. And so it goes...

Comment by Davy on October 21, 2013 at 2:53pm

I remember those years quite well as I was 18 then and looking down the barrel of being drafted. I thwarted their plans I tried to join the reg Army but was knocked back so I wrote a kind letter to the then minister of defence and told them polity  if I weren't good enough for the regs then I am not good enough to be drafted. Needless to say my name was removed from the ballot!

Comment by Richard Treehockowitz on October 20, 2013 at 11:01pm


  Good call forming this group. I regret not having jumped in sooner. Thanks for the invite.

  For what it's worth, I'll offer a little context to help lend some perspective on my own personal political point of view, which may be even more fascinating to those of you that don't liver within the increasing unfriendly confines of this once-great nation known as the U.S. of A.

  The place: Chicago, Illinois, U.S.A., Earth

  The time: many years ago, so stay with me here.

  The story (and trust me, this IS "the short version"): As a much younger human, I got together with a couple of friends to go downtown and see what was being advertised as a free concert in beautiful Grant Park (Google it).

  When we got there, the park was teeming with not only "hippies" (some of you may remember them?), but also a whole lot of other arguably more "normal" folks as well. The pungent aroma of cannabis sativa (as opposed to today's indica variety) wafted through the air.

  There was a small ad hoc kind of stage way up towards the front of the park, and there were some people there addressing the assembled multitude about the evils of the "police action" in Viet Nam, as well as the generally corrupt condition of the Amerikan (sic) politicians who supported it.

  We were roughly 14 years old, and really didn't have a clue as to what all the "hub-bub" was about - afterall we were there to hear some music, dammit! When the speakers finished making their respective points, a little known rock band from Detroit began to play their first song, which started by the lead singer screaming out at the top of his lungs "Kick out the jams, motherf#ckers!!!"

  This band was the venerable "MC 5" (Google it) and although they weren't who we originally planned on seeing, they definitely got our attention. Sadly, they also got the attention of a metric shitload of Chicago police, dressed in full riot gear, who began to wade into the rather diverse crowd, billy-clubs first.

  Next came the tear gas.

  As the more politically astute among you may have discerned by now, the year was 1968, and we were in the midst of one of the first assaults that accompanied the legendary Democratic National Convention.

  Needless to say, the party broke up, and at that moment, amidst the gagging and choking (on the gas, not the weed) my political consciousness was awakened.

  It never went back to sleep.

  Below are some photos, obviously NOT taken by the fourteen year old me, but they sure do stir up some vivid memories of "demock-racy" (sic) in action.

  Nice to meet'cha.

Comment by Chris on December 29, 2012 at 9:08pm

I read a university study that said that elected representatives listen to rich constituents even if they don't contribute to their campaign because they might contribute in the future. What this does is establish a system that continues to help the wealthy and disenfranchise the middle-class and poor. They are unaccountable to the middle-class and poor. This is why average to poor income people have to pool their efforts through protests, letter writing campaigns and etc to have a voice that heard.

Comment by Davy on December 28, 2012 at 2:06pm

That's because they are unaccountable to the people!

Comment by Chris on December 26, 2012 at 9:32pm

In the U.S. federal politicians tend to represent corporate interests rather than peoples interests. That results in terrible laws and regulations. It seems to be getting worse.

Comment by Davy on December 26, 2012 at 3:51pm

I just been not thinking and this thought pop in to my mind.

Politicians demand that everyone who is a government official including the people in the services to be accountable for their actions. But they are unwilling to account for their actions when they pass laws or do other things in relation to their contract with the people!

Comment by Chris on October 4, 2012 at 4:19pm

Here's some information about the U.S. political 'debates.'

Moderate Debates and Debate Moderators
Debate process needs more scrutiny, not less


The Commission on Presidential Debates, which wrested control of the debates from the League of Women Voters in 1988, is a nonprofit--financed largely by corporations--that is basically controlled by the two major political parties. The campaigns hash out secret agreements about every aspect of the debates, and, as the group Open Debates has pointed out for years, the campaigns actually get to vet the moderators.

Being praised by "political strategists" could mean you're exceedingly fair--or that you've managed to offend no one in power. The latter is not exactly an admirable trait in a journalist. But it's the kind of thing that makes it likely that the major-party candidates will let you moderate their presidential debate.

FAIR's repeated studies of the NewsHour show that Lehrer's reputation for moderation is based on a tilt toward conservative sources and a willingness to exclude perspectives that might challenge the elite consensus (Media Advisory, 5/13/11). When FAIR studied two months of the NewsHour in 2010 (Extra!11/10), we found four times as many oil industry representatives talking about the BP oil spill as environmental experts; none of the segments on the Afghan War included a peace advocate.

Thankfully, there are some alternatives. Democracy Now! is presenting a debate special that will include real-time responses to the questions from candidates shut out by the debate commission: Green Party candidate Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party. There will also be a livestream special presented by OccupyTheDebates.org, offering analysis and commentary that will not be available in the corporate media.


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