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Political Visions.


Political Visions.

Welcome to Political Visions.
The aim of this group is to learn about other peoples political visions and discuss those visions. How they envision the structure of the political system to be. The roles of the participants within the system. It could be a broad outline view or just an element or sub element of the political system. It is about political ideas whether they be socialistic, conservative, liberal, big government, little government, the role of the people within the political system, the role of government at all levels of your country. What you think should be in a constitution and a charter of rights and freedoms within a society. The obligations that those freedoms and rights impose on you as an individual.
Post your vision as a discussion to make it easier to discuss and understand your ideas for a political system.

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Discussion Forum

Does Political Democracy Foreshadow Economic Democracy?

Started by Tom Sarbeck. Last reply by Jaume Nov 5, 2014. 7 Replies

For eons, the bigger and stronger ate the smaller and weaker. The surviving smaller and weaker gradually devised a relationship in which they would not be eaten, and named it democracy. (Instead of…Continue

Tags: politics, economics, democracy, capitalism


Started by Davy. Last reply by Stephen May 22, 2014. 47 Replies

QuestionsThe following questions are questions that I've been thinking upon for a long time what are your thoughts on the questions and Why!I'll set them so that you can reply to each…Continue

Tags: thinking, why, questions, Thoughts

Your political Compass

Started by Davy. Last reply by doone May 18, 2014. 2 Replies

Ever wonder where which way your political compass points?Take the test here and see the direction the wind blows for you.The political…Continue

Tags: wing, right, left, compass, Political


Started by Davy. Last reply by Chris Oct 5, 2012. 12 Replies

DEMOCRACYA democracy has to be a SECULAR State to ensure that laws passed by your parliament do not interfere with rights and obligations of one person or group of people within your society. The…Continue

Tags: council, parliament, government, Democracy

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Comment by Chris 20 hours ago

Did Trump Win Through Vote Flipping and Vote Stripping?

According to the following the electorial vote is to balance the 3/5th's partial persons (slaves).

Why does the U.S. still need the Electorial College?

Comment by Chris 20 hours ago

Why the U.S. State Department would not certify Trump’s election as...

If this year's U.S. presidential election was held in a foreign nation, the U.S. State Department would not certify it as a "free and fair election." If this occurred anywhere else in the world the report by our government would conclude that there is a "suspicion of fraud or error."

On Monday, November 7, 2016 the U.S. government denounced elections in Nicaragua, stating that they were “deeply concerned by the flawed presidential and legislative electoral process” and that they were concerned there was no “possibility of a free and fair election” in that country on November 6. The statement explained that: “In advance of the elections, the Nicaraguan government sidelined opposition candidates for president, limited domestic observation at the polls and access to voting credentials, and took other actions to deny democratic space in the process. The decision by the Nicaraguan government not to invite independent international electoral observers further degraded the legitimacy of the election.

The United States has a Jim Crow system based on state’s rights which allows 50 Secretaries of State to exclude international election observers and to repress minority votes. The U.S. government also recently condemned the lack of transparency in Uganda’s election, noting that they lacked a “transparent and credible electoral process.” Yet the U.S. has the least transparent elections among so-called democratic nations, allowing private, for profit corporations to secretly count the vote using proprietary software.

In 2015, the U.S. Agency for International Development published a pamphlet entitled: Executive Summary: Assessing And Verifying Election Results, A Decision-Maker’s Guide To Parallel Vote Tabulation And Other Tools. It had this to say on exit polls and detecting election fraud in overseas elections: “Detecting fraud: Exit polls provide data that is generally indicative of how people voted. A discrepancy between the aggregated choices reported by voters and the official results may suggest, but not prove, that results have been tampered with.”

More in the above link

Comment by Chris 20 hours ago

Hillary Clinton's margin of victory in the 2016 vote count continues to climb, at this point well over a million. 

But her impending defeat in the Electoral College comes with familiar signs that the election was stripped and flipped.

These indicators include the realities of pre- and post-election polling; the massive stripping of primarily black, Hispanic and Asian-American voters from computer generated registration rolls mostly maintained by private partisan companies; unverifiable "black box" electronic voting machines and central tabulators, also mostly manufactured and maintained by private corporations, and much more.

Were this election held in any other country, the US State Department and independent monitors from around the world would denounce it as a fraud, and contemplate international intervention. 

The Electoral College

Much is finally being said about the Electoral College, with new popular demands for its abolition. Clinton is about to become the sixth presidential candidate to win a traditional majority but lose the presidency. It also happened in 1800, 1824, 1876, 1888 and 2000. Nearly 15% of our 45 presidents have been "selected" with the denial of the public will through an institution established in large part to enhance the power of slaveowners.

In February, 2013, at, we joined the multitudes throughout our history in calling for the EC's abolition:

It will take a Constitutional Amendment, and a hell of a lot of work, to abolish this corrupt anachronism. But unless we want to see an endless succession of George W. Bushes in the White House, something better be done -- and quick.

The consequences of inaction are all too clear.

Computerized Jim Crow Stripping of Voter Registration Rolls

More in the above link

Comment by Chris on November 30, 2016 at 6:16pm

Is Fascism coming to the U.S.?

President Obama and Holder, the Attorney General should have indited people accused of war crimes (torture) to prevent that activity from happening in the future.

As is the only person punished for war crimes is John Kiriakou

The Don said he will use torture.

His pick for chair of Homeland Security  tends to prove Trumps vision of torture.

Trump's potential DHS pick wants to imprison possibly 1 million at Gitmo and doesn't believe there is any police brutality.

Donald Trump met with Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke on Monday at Trump Tower. Clarke, who was an avid supporter of Trump during the 2016 campaign, is suspected to be tapped as secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. Trump also met with the homeland security advisor during George W. Bush’s administration, Frances Townsend and plans to meet with Texas Representative Michael McCaul (R) who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee. Clarke is a fourth-term elected sheriff in Milwaukee, Wisconsin who is known for his extreme views on policing.

1. Clarke proposed that about 1 million people should be sent to Guantanamo Bay if they’re using “jihadi rhetoric” online

Nearly a year go, Clarke went on his radio show, “The People’s Sheriff” on The Blaze network and said that terrorist and ISIS sympathizers in America need to be rounded up and shipped off to Guantanamo, according to Mother Jones. He proclaimed on the program, “It is time to suspend habeas corpus like Abraham Lincoln did during the civil war.”

“I suggest that our commander in chief ought to utilize Article I, Section 9 and take all of these individuals that are suspected, these ones on the internet spewing jihadi rhetoric . . . to scoop them up, charge them with treason and, under habeas corpus, detain them indefinitely at Gitmo,” Clarke said in the program. He guessed that about several hundred thousand or even a million sympathizers were in the United States and needed to be imprisoned.

2. He refers to the Black Lives Matter movement as “Black Lies Matter”

Clarke is a regular contributor to Fox News, and blamed progressive policies for perpetuating a culture of violence and poverty in black communities on the channel last August. In July, he wrote an article for Fox blaming the Black Lives Matter movement for the murder of Dallas police officers.

“You see, Black Lives Matter is proving itself to seek only one end – and that is discord, alienation among Americans, rise in hate, and destruction of community bonds,” Clarke wrote in the article. “Black Lives Matter has no more to do with black issues than Students for a Democratic Society had to do with Democracy.”

Comment by Chris on November 30, 2016 at 6:04pm

What 6 Top Election Experts Are Saying About the Next Big Step in t...

It should be apparent that prior to the general election primary candidates are selected based on power rather than citizens.

As the Don said elections are rigged. The malfeiesance at the Democratic nominating committee that held Bernie Sanders back and resulted in Wasserman Shults quitting should be evidence that the electorial process is broken.

A half-dozen of the nation's top computer scientists who have spent years analyzing how electronic voting machines can malfunction or be hacked to alter vote counts have filed affidavits in the Wisconsin presidential recount in support of hand-counting the ballots.

The scientists have collectively spent decades advising top state election officials and the federal government’s election oversight panels on computer security and preventing inaccurate or tampered vote counts. Their affidavits support the idea that the Wisconsin Elections Commission should order the state’s counties to recount all paper ballots by hand, instead of leaving it up to counties to decide if they will do that or run them through high-speed scanners as on Election Day. They also make the case that hostile foreign governments like Russia are quite capable of hacking into state election systems, inserting malware to a range of components to alter the reported vote counts and then disappearing with no trace.

These assertions are unprecedented in a federal election recount and strongly bolster the Green Party’s argument that the states conducting a presidential recount should conduct the most comprehensive recount possible, starting with hand-counting paper-based elements in voting systems. In Wisconsin, that includes ballots and tapes from touchscreen machines.

A Wisconsin court began hearing testimony Tuesday afternoon on the Green Party's suit to force a manual recount. The court ruled against the Green Party, with Dane County circuit judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn saying the Greens fell short of the legal requirements to order a hand count, even though the judge personally thinks a hand count is a good idea.

"I follow the law. That's who I am despite my personal opinions," said Bailey-Rihn. "It's (the counties’) decision. It's their discretion. I may disagree with it… but I must follow the law."

What follows are excerpts from the court filings by the six computer scientists supporting a manual recount.

Comment by Chris on November 8, 2016 at 10:59pm

Free movie today at

The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.

It takes some to access it, but may be worth the trouble to some interested in the election process (In the U.S.A.).

Comment by Chris on October 23, 2016 at 11:52am

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Comment by doone on October 30, 2015 at 1:37am

Baboons would behave better than  those clowns.   Ironic that a whole  segment of our society are cheering  on the possibility of having  no  government.

Comment by Chris on October 30, 2015 at 1:28am

Here Here,

I enjoy watching Parlement in Canada, the U.K. and Australia.

Congress in the U.S. seems like the name means a bunch of Baboons, orcrastrated by mass media who promote clapping seals.

Comment by Stephen on October 28, 2015 at 2:26pm

Now this is what I call an opposition well done Labour MP Glenda Jackson.


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