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The internet is both a telecommunication medium and a culture. We have embraced it because of its immediacy, its pervasiveness and its usefulness.

Even though for most of us its workings is equivalent to magic and it's enough to know that it's very 'complicated and technical,' it has become an intricate part of our life.

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The Internet

This is a partial portrait of the Internet. Imagine that at the tip of each branch there is one or multiple human brains operating and that each one of these terminals can be instantly connected to any other, anywhere.

If we could map this image to the surface of the Earth it would make it even more obvious that this network of networks is like a new organ that has been grafted onto the biosphere.

Partial map of the Internet based on the January 15, 2005 data found on opte.org. Each line is drawn between two nodes, representing two IP addresses. The length of the lines are indicative of the delay between those two nodes. This graph represents less than 30% of the Class C networks reachable by the data collection program in early 2005. Lines are color-coded according to their corresponding RFC 1918 allocation as follows:

Dark blue: net, ca, us
Green: com, org
Red: mil, gov, edu
Yellow: jp, cn, tw, au, de
Magenta: uk, it, pl, fr
Gold: br, kr, nl
White: unknown

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Discussion Forum

The NSA may have won a round but are losing the war!

Started by Davy. Last reply by Chris Oct 13, 2013. 1 Reply

THE CORE INTERNET INSTITUTIONS ABANDON THE US GOVERNMENTIn Montevideo, Uruguay this week, the Directors of all the major Internet organizations – ICANN, the Internet Engineering Task Force, the…Continue

Tags: China, internet, governance, Brazil, Russia

So you think the cloud is Safe?

Started by Davy. Last reply by Chris Sep 26, 2013. 12 Replies

In the digital age, your files and memories are not truly yours any more. They belong to the cloudKYLE GOODWIN wants his stuff back. One day, he decided to set up a company in Ohio to …Continue

Tags: data, storage, computing, Cloud


Started by doone. Last reply by Neal Sep 5, 2013. 2 Replies

ARE WE SMARTER YET? HOW COLLEGES ARE MISUSING THE INTERNETby Akim ReinhardtWe should all probably be a lot smarter…Continue


Wearable computers challenge human rights

Started by Davy Jul 24, 2013. 0 Replies

The thoughtless adoption of new technologies seduces us into providing more of our personal selves without any concerns for the protection of our personal data, argues Katina Michael an associate…Continue

Tags: sensors, information, technology, computers, rights

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Comment by Chris on November 10, 2015 at 5:46pm

The AT&T tech replaced the line filters. Maybe that'll fix thew noisy line and drop-outs. I doubt it.

Do any A/U members use VPN's?

On another subject VPN and the internet.


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Comment by Chris on November 8, 2015 at 6:55pm

As a follow up. As long as telco's keep convincing consumers that they have to constantly upgrade they never have responsibility for backward compatibally, or for that matter any kind of connection quality.

Comment by Chris on November 8, 2015 at 6:45pm

This is a cross post  from

Piece of Shit AT&T Connection


Maybe this 94 KB image of the broken speed test will post. The others images of this sweep I tried to post haven't worked. I think it may be a result of noise on the line.

While  working on this problem the telco, blames  it on internal lines, computer problems, or the need to buy a new computer. 

I'm guessing  with the value of quarterly stock profits CEO's don't give a shit about customer service, as long as they can keep them quiet - buying new computers and upgrading software as a method to diveret the problem from the terrible service provided.

Comment by Chris on November 4, 2015 at 7:02am

With all of my complaints, I wonder how my neighbors deal - probably with terrible cell phone service.

Comment by Chris on November 4, 2015 at 6:56am

Wouldn't you think that here just north of the 'silly-cone' valley that our internet connection would work - somewhat.

My internet connection has been half whitted for years.  I wonder if we are still using telegraph lines from the gold rush era here sometimes.

It's pathetic.

Comment by Stephen on November 3, 2015 at 5:58am

Chris I'm constantly surprised that California of all places is as slow as it appears to be. I've noticed that most of your phone lines are overhead and not buried underground and I read somewhere that overhead cables are hard to convert to fibre optics. You can understand it in the more rural areas but from what ive seen even in your cities they are laid out above ground. 

Comment by Chris on November 3, 2015 at 1:01am

Here we go again. P.O.S. internet connection with rain causing shorts and intermittentant problems. 

I should probably drop the telephone line and use cable.

Comment by Chris on August 28, 2015 at 6:22am

My telco is a P.O.S. AT&T has been to my house numerous times. The've sent me a couple of modems - whoch of course I don't need. One modem that works is all I need. The line comming to my house is terrible.

A neighbor had a hook fall off her house dropping a power line on to the com line resulting in multiple shorts.

The telco replaced four sections of line and spliced at least 40 connections.

I had another line drop this evening. AT&T will come out today between 1-8.  Prehaps they will eventually fix the problem. At this point with all of the problems it seems it would be less expensive for them to replace the entire line - which is about 2500 feet.  My neighobors must be having telco and internet, or if they have TV via the telephone line that must be  half working.

This is becoming ridicoulous.  The problem has been going on for months - years after my neighbor had the hook for her power line fall off the house and drop on the wires.

This is one of many reasons why it's better to burry the lines in the street.

Though it's more expensive, there are fewer problems in the long term - and when done correctly there are fewer odd outages.

I suppose most people give up and just get a cell phone. I don't need, or want  a cell phone. Most people I know who have them have terrible service connections.

This internet service though the telco is terrible - the telephone line is noisly and the internet service is shakey at best.  I wonder how many of my neighbors use the telepone line for their TV. At best it must be foggy.

I guess most people don't complain and are complacent.

Terrible service is commonplace  within every institution.

How did we get to the point where it was acceptable to have shitty service in every institution we need to rely on?I

Comment by Chris on October 25, 2013 at 7:39am

September 6, 2013 | By Maira Sutton

International Criticism Escalates Against TPP as Negotiations Go Fu...

This week, trade delegates met in San Francisco to discuss the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement's e-commerce chapter. It's likely that this secret chapter carries provisions that whittle away at user data protections [pdf]. But we weren't able to say so at this meeting. Not only have they neglected to notify digital rights groups—including EFF, which is based in San Francisco—about the meeting, we could not even discover where it was taking place.

Delegates from TPP countries are right now holding these secretive "inter-sessional" meetings here and in other undisclosed cities around the world. Trade reps for specific issue areas are hammering out "unresolved" issues that are holding up the conclusion of the agreement, and doing so by becoming even more secretive and evasive than ever.

We only heard about a TPP meeting on intellectual property in Mexico City in September through the diplomatic rumor-mill, since the US Trade Rep is no longer bothering to announce the dates or locations of these closed-door side meetings. During this round in Mexico, countries that have been resistant to U.S. demands to sign onto highly restrictive copyright enforcement standards may ultimately be strong-armed into doing so.

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Comment by Davy on October 2, 2013 at 5:32pm

Microsoft is just lucky they ain't being sued for the same thing!


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