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Chris Cuomo Schools Catholic League's Bill Donohue

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From Buzzfeed - Things Atheist Guys Love

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Things Atheist Guys LoveThey may not believe in God, but they sure care about karma.posted on July 16, 2013 at 10:03am EDTKatie…Continue

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Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on March 5, 2012 at 11:37am

"At The Very Instant He Struck The Tree"

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mentioned the great existentialist, Albert Camus, as someone who had impacted my own religious thinking. A reader notes that in William Faulkner's obit for the great writer, something of the same came across:

Camus said that the only true function of man, born into an absurd world, is to live, be aware of one's life, one's revolt, one's freedom. He said that if the only solution to the human dilemma is death, then we are on the wrong road. The right track is the one that leads to life, to the sunlight.

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on March 5, 2012 at 9:28am

Saudi Women Need Not Compete

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Nina Burleigh laments the Saudis' refusal to allow women to participate in the Olympic games:

Women in the Kingdom are legally prohibited from breaking a sweat over anything more strenuous than wearing the burka in 120 degree desert heat. To exercise publicly is to risk being smacked with the sticks of the religious police, or worse. ... Imagine, for a moment, a world where your daughter was not just discouraged from playing soccer or swimming or doing gymnastics but prohibited from running in public. Is there a nation in the world that would single out a male minority for similar treatment, and not face diplomatic complaints or sanctions?

(Photo: Tower Bridge opens as Giant Olympic rings pass through on The River Thames on February 28, 2012 in London, England. By Peter Macdiarmid/Getty Images.)

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on March 4, 2012 at 11:19pm

Revelation, Revealed

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Adam Gopnik reviews Revelations: Visions, Prophecy, and Politics in the Book of Revelation by Elaine Pagels. In Pagels' view, Revelation was probably written by a refugee mystic named John and isn't prophecy but "a highly colored picture of the present":

It’s essentially a political cartoon about the crisis in the Jesus movement in the late first century, with Jerusalem fallen and the Temple destroyed and the Saviour, despite his promises, still not back. All the imagery of the rapt and the raptured and the rest that the “Left Behind” books have made a staple for fundamentalist Christians represents contemporary people and events, and was well understood in those terms by the original audience. Revelation is really like one of those old-fashioned editorial drawings where Labor is a pair of overalls and a hammer, and Capital a bag of money in a tuxedo and top hat, and Economic Justice a woman in flowing robes, with a worried look.

PBS excerpted the book:

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on March 4, 2012 at 7:34pm
Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on March 4, 2012 at 7:23pm

The Politicization Of Catholicism

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The legacy of Pope John Paul II and the current pontiff is increasingly felt. In rejecting the separation of church and state, and by focusing primarily on sexual issues, the hierarchy in many countries is beginning to fuse with parties of the social right. And the politics is now Santorum-esque. Listen to Cardinal Dolan of New York embracing the culture war:

“We are called to be very active, very informed and very involved in politics."

There's more:

“It is a freedom of religion battle,” he said. “It is not about contraception. It is not about women’s health.” He added: “We’re talking about an unwarranted, unprecedented, radical intrusion” into “a church’s ability to teach, serve and sanctify on its own.”

The cardinal mocked a secular culture that “seems to discover new rights every day.” “I don’t recall a right to marriage,” he said, describing marriage, instead, as a “call.”

“Now we hear there’s a right to sterilization, abortion and chemical contraceptives. I suppose there might be a doctor who would say to a man who’s suffering some type of sexual dysfunction, ‘You ought to visit a prostitute to help you.’ ”

The rhetoric is creeping toward Limbaughism. The Second Council's notion that all Catholics are the church is dismissed:

At a news conference after Saturday’s speech, Cardinal Dolan said, “We kind of got our Irish up when leaders in government seemed to be assigning an authoritative voice to Catholic groups that are not the bishops.” He added: “If you want an authoritative voice, go to the bishops. They’re the ones that speak for the truths of the faith.”

Yes, they did a great job ensuring that thousands of children were left at the mercies of child predators for decades, didn't they? Just trust them. Don't listen to the majority of Catholics who dissent, or those brave souls who exposed the network of pedophiles and pederasts. Then the leader of an institution which refuses to allow women equality, boasts of using women as p.r. elements of a political campaign:

He told a story about bishops hiring an “attractive, articulate, intelligent” laywoman to speak against abortion and said it was “the best thing we ever did.”

And in Britain, Cardinal Keith O'Brien has now likened allowing gay citizens to have civil marriage to "madness" and the legalization of slavery:

Disingenuously, the Government has suggested that same-sex marriage wouldn’t be compulsory and churches could choose to opt out. This is staggeringly arrogant. No Government has the moral authority to dismantle the universally understood meaning of marriage. Imagine for a moment that the Government had decided to legalise slavery but assured us that “no one will be forced to keep a slave”.

It's in this context that you have to understand the recent cruel withholding of communionto a lesbian daughter at her mother's funeral, or the abrupt firing of a gifted music teacher because he sought to marry the man he loves. As modern society shifts, and as its own flock shifts with it, the Church hierarchy has decided to double-down on its sexual absolutism. The cruelty comes with it.

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on March 4, 2012 at 6:49pm

Who Will Speak Up for the Poor Brainwashed Women Who Have Been Lead...

posted by  on SUN, MAR 4, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Consider my email inbox. Consider the letters that pour in daily. Consider how difficult it must be for someone—anyone—to write something—anything—that makes my jaw drop open. So congrats to Pastor Joshua Genig of Atlanta's Lutheran Church of the Ascension, who nearly caused me to shatter my jaw on my laptop just now. Pastor Genig had wrote this in a post at First Things:

Who is speaking up for the mothers who, under HHS mandate, have been falsely coerced into feeling that to be a woman means to have “control” of their own bodies?

One little HHS mandate was all it took to "falsely" coerce women into believing that they're not really women if they don't have control over their own bodies. Such impressionable creatures! So easily lead astray! Someone needs to explain to these confused women that the bodies of real women are controlled by Rush Limbaugh, Rick Santorum, Bayer Aspirin, Roy Blunt, Pastor Genig, any resident zygotes, and those child-rape-enabling paragons of virtue over at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. (Via Sullivan.)

Hey, look! It's Pastor Genig's email address: prgenig@ascension-lcms.com. And, hey! Atlanta's Lutheran Church of the Ascension is on a Facebook! So modern!

Comment by Adriana on March 4, 2012 at 5:07pm

How can dogs prevent angels from entering the house? Dogs ARE angels :-)

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on March 4, 2012 at 5:00pm

A City Of Strays

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Bernd Brunner examines Istanbul's 100,000 street dogs:

Although there is no clear basis for this belief in the Koran, strict Muslims consider dogs — especially their drool — to be unclean. People don’t let the animals into their homes because they could dirty the prayer rug and because, even today, little tradition exists of keeping dogs as pets. Furthermore, a common belief holds that köpekler, as dogs are called, prevent angels from visiting. ... Although dogs formed part of a romantic cityscape, caricatures from the Ottoman period depict them as threats to be stopped, along with cholera, crime, and women in European clothing.

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on March 4, 2012 at 2:58pm

The Greatest Christian Book

The former bishop of Oxford Richard Harries nominates The Cloud of Unknowing, an anonymous 14th century text, among others:

According to Christian theology there are two ways to know God. There is what’s called the positive way, where you try to say things about God, and then there is the negative way, where you have to unsay everything you have said about God and go into a kind of unknown. This is because everything we say about God can be somewhat misleading because we talk in metaphors all the time. And metaphors are always as untrue as they are true. They have to be broken and then remade and broken and remade. And therefore to know God as he truly is, instead of purely our projection, we need to go beyond all our metaphors into what he referred to as “the cloud of unknowing”, where you simply reach out to God himself, whom you can’t characterise or describe at all.

My thoughts about the best writers on God here.

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on March 4, 2012 at 8:38am

Would The World Be Better Off Without Religion?

With harsh words for the neo-atheists, Bryan Appleyard answers:

[A]bsence of religion does not guarantee that the demonic side of our natures will be eliminated. People should have learned this from the catastrophic failed atheist project of communism, but too many didn't. ... The history of attempts to destroy religion is littered with the corpses of believers and unbelievers alike. There are many roads to truth, but cultish intolerance is not one of them.

 
 
 

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