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From Buzzfeed - Things Atheist Guys Love

Started by Doone. Last reply by Chris Feb 3. 3 Replies

Things Atheist Guys LoveThey may not believe in God, but they sure care about karma.posted on July 16, 2013 at 10:03am EDTKatie…Continue

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Waiting for the Rapture

Started by Neal. Last reply by Chris Jun 2, 2017. 8 Replies

Welcome to the CrazyIn Texas there's a case going to the Supreme…Continue

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Saudi Muslim cleric claims the Earth is 'stationary' and the sun rotates around it

Started by Neal. Last reply by Stephen Jun 2, 2016. 40 Replies

Yes, religion does have all the answers. Saudi Arabian cleric has claimed…Continue

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Bahraini Intellectual Describes the Problems in the Muslim World

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Bahraini Intellectual Describes the Problems in the Muslim World  Men like this give me hope for the Middle East.Continue

Another decade, same old song.

Started by Neal Mar 30, 2015. 0 Replies

A decade or so ago, Judge Moore's ten commandments monument went on tour across the U.S. When it made it's way to Lansing, MI, I went to protest the monument sitting on the state capital grounds. There I ran into a fine christian man and his son who…Continue

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400 men cut their testicles off believing it would help them meet God.

Started by Neal. Last reply by Chris Mar 1, 2015. 3 Replies

Hell, this might be even better than the stationary earth dude. Cutting off your balls should be an action that all religious men partake in. …Continue

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Foundational Worldview Questions

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Hi everyone. i am working on project for a class and for it I am asking some questions on worldviews. If you are willing I would really appreciate it if you would answer these questions for me.1.What is actually reality? What is really real?2.What…Continue

How is this for the stupidity of Interpretation of an Old Book!

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Council of Islam in Pakistan has declared that mere existence of women is against sharia and the will of their sky fairy! Read the full report in the following link.…Continue

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Creationist Version Of Neanderthal Human Interbreeding

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Chris Cuomo Schools Catholic League's Bill Donohue

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Comment by Hope on March 21, 2012 at 12:51pm

Praying Mantis! I sure that believers are going to cry after seeing this pic! :P

Comment by Doone on March 21, 2012 at 8:30am

Praying Mantis

cute animals - Tiny Mantis 

Comment by Hope on March 20, 2012 at 12:57pm
#3373 - Egyptian Cleric Wagdi Ghoneim Praises Allah for the Death of Pope Shenouda III: "May Allah Exact Revenge from Him in the Hellfire" The Internet - March 18, 2012 - 02:00
 

Egyptian Cleric Wagdi Ghoneim Praises Allah for the Death of Pope Shenouda III: "May Allah Exact Revenge from Him in the Hellfire"

Following are excerpts from a statement by Egyptian cleric Wagdi Ghoneim, which was posted on the Internet on March 18, 2012 :

Praise be to Allah. With the grace of Allah, the head of unbelief and polytheism, known as Shenouda, died yesterday, may Allah exact revenge from him. God's worshippers and the trees and the animals were all relieved by his death. Egypt is relieved by his [death], because he generated sectarian strife.

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This dead accursed criminal, known as Shenouda, was told that the Koran says, in Surat Al-Maida: "And [beware the day] when Allah will say: Oh Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people: Take me and my mother as gods beside Allah?" [Shenouda] said: "We don't take Christ and his mother as gods beside Allah. He Is God."

The truth is that he was very clear in his enmity to Islam. When the Muslim Brothers would chant their slogan: "The Koran is our constitution," he would respond: "The New Testament is our constitution." When they would say: "Death for the sake of Allah is our highest aspiration," he would say: "Death for the sake of Christ is our highest aspiration."

He used to say that Egypt was under Muslim occupation. He demanded to abolish the Islamic shari'a and turn Egypt into a Coptic state.

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He wanted to cause civil strife. He wanted to set Egypt ablaze.

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Are we supposed to send condolences or be sad about someone like this? We should be happy that he died. Let him go to Hell. May Allah exact revenge from him in the Hellfire – from him and from all those who follow his path.

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Comment by Doone on March 20, 2012 at 8:14am

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Reminders of death make the non-religious more hostile to religion yet more acepting of beliefs

Posted: 19 Mar 2012 03:21 PM PDT

There's quite a lot of research showing that subtly reminding people of death can make them more religious (here's an example). But what's not clear is why that should be - and in particular whether non-religious people also become more religious.

Jonathan Jong, a new PhD from the University of Otago in New Zealand, has conducted a series of fascinating studies to investigate just this. You can find his thesis here - there's a lot in it, but here's two key studies that will make you think.

In the first study, Jong asked students to write either about what they thought would happen to them when they die (the death condition), or about watching TV (the control condition). Then he asked them a series of questions about religious beliefs (with a Christian slant) - the Spiritual Belief Scale (SBS).

You can see in the figure that religious people have, as you would expect, high levels of belief in the supernatural - and this increases still further in the 'death' condition versus the TV condition.

Non-religious people had lower beliefs to start with, and they got lower still after death reminders. They become stronger in their rejection of religious beliefs.

OK, so far so good. But this is just what people are saying - and what people say and what they think instinctively are not necessarily the same.

So then Jong ran a version of the Implicit Association Test. This is basically a computerised quiz in which you have to classify words into different groups. Some classifications go against your instinctive beliefs - and these classifications will make you stumble a little, and so take you a little bit longer.

So, in this case, the subjects had to classify supernatural (Angel, Devil, God, Heaven, Soul, etc), real (Eagle, Helicopter...), and imaginary (Batmobile, Fairy, Genie, Mermaid, Narnia) entities as either real or imaginary. For the the non-religious, being asked to classify supernatural and real objects together as real, and distinct from imaginary objects, is tough to do. It goes against their instincts, and so they took significantly longer to do it.

However, if they were primed with death thoughts before hand, they found the task easier. In fact, the improvement in speed was pretty much as large as it was for the religious. What this suggests is that the idea that supernatural entities are real is easier to contemplate for everyone - including the non-religious - if they have been thinking about death.

Jong thinks that what we're seeing here is evidence that reflective, conscious thoughts can be decoupled from instinctive, implicit beliefs.

What may be happening is that all of us - religious and non-religious alike - have a kind of innate response to the fear of death that makes us more accommodating to the idea of supernatural beings (at least, those ones that are culturally accepted as possibly real and not complete fantasies).

Countering this, on the other hand, is something called Worldview Defence. This is the well-known phenomenon that when we are reminded about death, we tend to cling onto comforting, reassuring beliefs about the world. We become more positive about our own ethnic group or nation, for example, and more hostile to strangers.

For the religious, this also includes a heightened attachment to religion. For the non-religious, however, the reverse effect seems to occur.

For the non-religious, being reminded of death makes them instinctively more superstitious, but also overtly more hostile to religion!
Comment by Doone on March 19, 2012 at 6:12pm

America's Red And Blue Tribes

Why pure rationalism can't explain politics:

Despite what you might have learned in Economics 101, people aren’t always selfish. In politics, they’re more often groupish. When people feel that a group they value — be it racial, religious, regional or ideological — is under attack, they rally to its defense, even at some cost to themselves. We evolved to be tribal, and politics is a competition among coalitions of tribes.

The key to understanding tribal behavior is not money, it’s sacredness. The great trick that humans developed at some point in the last few hundred thousand years is the ability to circle around a tree, rock, ancestor, flag, book or god, and then treat that thing as sacred. People who worship the same idol can trust one another, work as a team and prevail over less cohesive groups. So if you want to understand politics, and especially our divisive culture wars, you must follow the sacredness.

Comment by Chris on March 18, 2012 at 7:23pm

Obama administration asks that large cross remain as war memorial

Supreme Court » Obama administration says 58-year-old icon doesn’t push religion.
First Published Mar 16 2012 05:45 pm • Last Updated Mar 16 2012 11:34 pm

Washington • The Obama administration is asking the Supreme Court to allow a 43-foot-tall cross that serves as a war memorial to remain atop Mount Soledad near San Diego, arguing the cross that has been there since 1954 is not an endorsement of religion.

The government should not be required "to tear down a cross that has stood without incident for 58 years as a highly venerated memorial to the nation’s fallen service members," Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr. said in a new appeal to the high court.

More Here

Comment by Doone on March 18, 2012 at 3:07pm

The Money In Mecca

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In reviewing the British Museum's new exhibition about the Hajj, Joy Lo Dicoponders Saudi dominion over the pilgrimage site:

Gulf News has estimated that the Hajj and the Umrah, the lesser pilgrimage that can be conducted at any time of year, contributes $30 billion to the economy, through the provision of accommodation, travel services, even animals for slaughter. That is 6 percent of the Saudi’s total GDP—with oil revenues stripped out, it’s more like 15 percent. Saudi Arabia’s status as patron has been repaid magnificently. As the river of black gold runs dry and the Hajj continues to grow, it not unthinkable that it will become the country’s greatest financial asset.

Malise Ruthven shares other concerns about the exhibit:

Comment by Doone on March 18, 2012 at 11:28am

A Statement Of Fashion Or Faith?

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In an upcoming case, British government lawyers will argue that Christians do not have a right to wear a cross openly at work. The former Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams, sided with the defense by characterizing the cross as "a religious decoration." Andrew Brown disagrees:

Does Christianity demand that its adherents wear a cross? The courts here have decided that it doesn't, but I'm not sure the question is well framed. You might as well ask "does Christianity demand that you go to church on Sundays?" or "does it demand pacifism?" There are just too many Christianities for such a question to make sense. 

David Gibson finds a reason for Christians of all stripes to finally unite:

Comment by Doone on March 18, 2012 at 9:15am

"Not A Possession But A Hope"

In 1966, Time Magazine ran the cover story, “Is God Dead?,” which featured the beliefs of "Christian Atheist" William Hamilton. Hamilton passed away this month. Jon Meachamrecalls his theology:

In his view that faith was “not a possession but a hope,” Hamilton was tapping into an ancient tradition. As the author of the New Testament Epistle to the Hebrews wrote, “Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen”—in this sense, religious faith is way of interpreting experience that allows for the possibility of the redemptive.

Comment by Doone on March 17, 2012 at 11:24pm
 
 
 

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