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Comment by doone on April 1, 2012 at 1:08pm

Can Anyone Agree On Hell?

A new documentary wonders:

The inspiration for director Kevin Miller:

Miller was prompted to pursue the project in large part because of “an inherited belief (of hell) from  tradition that puts us in a dilemma. “If that view of hell is true, it seems like we can have a good God or we can have hell, but we can’t have both.”

In the comments section at Unreasonable Faith, Miller explains his outlook:

My philosophy is that the universe is what it is no matter what we believe about it, so we should always hold our beliefs loosely. The history of humanity is a history of changing our beliefs in light of new evidence. It’s rigidly held belief that always gets us into trouble. That’s essentially what “Hellbound?” is all about.

Previous Dish discussions on hell here, here, here and here.

Comment by doone on April 1, 2012 at 8:18am

The Faith Of Children

Various studies have shown that children are primed to believe in religion. Justin L. Barrettthinks we shouldn't dismiss such beliefs as childish:

[A]dults generally do believe in gods. That such belief begins in childhood and typically endures into adulthood places it in the same class as believing in the permanence of solid objects, the continuity of time, the predictability of natural laws, the fact that causes precede effects, that people have minds, that their mothers love them and numerous others. If believing in gods is being childish in the same respect as holding these sorts of beliefs, then belief in gods is in good company.

That was from the Dish, Andrew Sullivan normal Sunday habit of pumping up religion.  Of course, while there may be exceptions at times to some of those other beliefs, in general time is continuous, mothers love their children but  the Gods Ganesa, Yahweh, Allah and Mothra do not exist.

Comment by Neal on March 31, 2012 at 3:13pm

Funny, though you might wonder how theists designed a spaceship. =)

Comment by doone on March 31, 2012 at 2:37pm

Comment by Neal on March 31, 2012 at 8:50am

Roast baby first, you need the energy to cut down those trees.

Comment by doone on March 31, 2012 at 8:47am

"Ancient pagans fashioned ivy "into wreaths 
and garlands for decorations during the winter 
months." Ivy had close ties with the Roman god 
of wine, Bacchus.  Holly, meanwhile, figured 
prominently in the Roman celebration of the 
Saturnalia (upon which the Christmas holiday 
was directly modeled), as it was considered 
sacred to the god Saturn. Among the Celts, 
holly played a major role in summer and 
winter pagan solstice observances."
- "The Green Mountain Gardener" 
   Dr. Leonard Perry, 
 

"Holly and other evergreens were subsequently
adopted by common Christians as Christmas 
decorations in Roman times. This, despite 
protests from disapproving Church Fathers, 
who regarded the decorations as "too pagan." 
Such protests notwithstanding, evergreen 
decorations were well on their way to becoming 
Christmas institutions, symbols of the pagan 
past co-opted by the new religion."
- "The Green Mountain Gardener" 
   Dr. Leonard Perry,

"Holly was the sacred plant of the god Saturn
and was used at the Roman Saturnalia festival 
to honour him. Romans gave one another holly 
wreaths and carried them about decorating 
images of Saturn with it."
-All About Christmas
Mistletoe and Holly

 

Comment by Adriana on March 31, 2012 at 8:39am

I mean, Pat Robertson, we know him well, what do you expect him to say? But who is the woman? Wicca and cutting down trees?? WTF?? That's creative bullshit. I don't know what to do first this morning: should I roast a baby or grab my ax and go chop down some trees?

Comment by Neal on March 31, 2012 at 7:38am

Got to cut down them trees! =)

Comment by doone on March 31, 2012 at 7:28am

I get nothing from Robertson's comments about atheism.  I wonder if Xtian's who watch the 700 club get a better cloud in heaven than Xtian's who had to live their life without the benefit of seeing Pat Robertson.

Comment by Neal on March 31, 2012 at 6:56am

Robertson on atheists:

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