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A place to discuss anything that has to do with the "Greening" of our planet.

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Why it's hard to change a climate denier's mind

Started by Adriana. Last reply by Chris Sep 2. 29 Replies

This is an interesting blog from James Hrynyshyn, who is a communication expert who writes a science blog called Class: M. I guess I never viewed it this way, but it is intriguing. The idea is that a human effect on climate is hard to believe because it runs counter to thousands of years of human belief, not just biblical but in other cultures as well, that climate is something so huge and beyond our human purview that it is totally counter-intuitive to accept that we could indeed be having…Continue

Tags: communication, climate change

Dealing with a Harsh Reality

Started by Dennis Paul Renner. Last reply by Dennis Paul Renner Sep 17, 2015. 16 Replies

It is with a heavy heart and great sadness that I question every action I have taken to help the planet, and, there by humanity, and the animals I have shared this planet with. Like many of you I have taken many steps in my life to protect our home. I became vegan 22 years ago, and was a vegetarian the previous 37 years. I rode bicycle every chance I got instead of driving a car, I got into solar cooking to use the suns energy instead of the carbon industries fuels. Of course I recycled. The…Continue

NEWS FLASH>> Breaking: State Department Supports Keystone XL Pipeline

Started by Sydni Moser. Last reply by Neal Jun 20, 2013. 4 Replies

 The US State Department’s final Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) on the proposed Keystone XL pipeline has been released. The State Department “does not regard the No Action Alternative to be preferable to the proposed Project.” On Day 7 of the White House Sit-in, an estimated…Continue

How a Country With One of the World's Largest Economies Is Ditching Fossil Fuels

Started by Neal. Last reply by Michel Apr 21, 2013. 16 Replies

As the U.S., and apparently Canada, moves into being a major supplier of death fuels, some countries are going in a different direction. America doesn't lead anymore, because our government is full of conservative christian dipshits.The country is headed for 80 percent renewable energy and has complete buy-in from all political parties.December 19, 2012 |…Continue

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Comment by Michel on April 25, 2013 at 1:02pm

Documenting a spectacular environmental failure in the 1980s:

Lake Peigneur salt mine collapse

 

Comment by Doone on April 22, 2013 at 10:14pm
Comment by Lester Unega Waya on April 21, 2013 at 4:18pm

The toughest place to be a bin man.

Comment by Lester Unega Waya on April 21, 2013 at 3:11pm

Neal.
Re;
"Cities need to be built up, not out, to maintain the population. I like the idea of "green" areas enforced to make that happen."

High levels of population concentration contribute to climate change/global warming.

Comment by Lester Unega Waya on April 21, 2013 at 3:07pm

Michel.
Re;
"Lester, my point was that by just concentrating on the material, using our animal empathy and human reason, we might be able to achieve a better balance with our environment. "

As in when a tree is cut down, plant three more.The British approach is balance exploitation with conservation. Local fishermen for example, use their own initiative and deploy no take areas to conserve fish stocks. No take areas are off limits for about two years.

Comment by Davy on April 21, 2013 at 2:24pm

I agree Neal that cities should be built on smaller surfaces areas than what is currently occurring. But also the human population has effectively grown at such a pace, so that it has effectively lost touch with its roots. The natural habitat  that we evolved in. 

Just as field has a grazing capacity for the raising of live stock, the world has also grazing capacity for humanity because we eat everything. We are past that grazing capacity and now destroying the very systems that provide the oxygen, clean the waterways, provide the spawning grounds for part of our food supply. 

Comment by Neal on April 21, 2013 at 1:53pm

Cities need to be built up, not out, to maintain the population. I like the idea of "green" areas enforced to make that happen.

Comment by Michel on April 21, 2013 at 12:46pm

Lester, my point was that by just concentrating on the material, using our animal empathy and human reason, we might be able to achieve a better balance with our environment. 

I don't think there's any going back to small human collectives living harmoniously with nature. Certainly not at a significant scale. Our problem is modern: cities, megalopolises, and their support industries. It is a very material problem, with a scope so wide only collective reason can solve.

There is only one world - the one we find ourselves in.

Comment by Lester Unega Waya on April 21, 2013 at 11:58am

Michel.

Re;

"there's no separation between what you call the spiritual and material worlds."

You are correct. In the Bible it is stated that as it is on Earth so it is in the Heavens, (worlds invisible to the naked eye).

The problem is that there are those who neglect the spiritual and just focus on the material. Hence the climate issue which is Nature reacting to exploitation to the detriment of conservation.

With the deforestation of the rainforests, Nature is saying, "you want drought and deserts, you shall have drought and deserts".

Exploitation harmoneously merged with conservation is connecting with both worlds.

Comment by Michel on April 21, 2013 at 11:29am

@Lester - You are absolutely right!

Except for one thing with which I disagree: there's no separation between what you call the spiritual and material worlds. There's the natural world - in which, under certain conditions, awareness arises. But that's another topic =)

The next big step we humans need to accomplish, now that we've realized our true impact on the world, is to use our basic solidarity instinct to correct our behavior. By extending our peerdom beyond its usual frontier, to incorporate the whole planet, we'll make the issue of impending global doom more personal for more people.

 
 
 

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