What Happens When a Quiverfull Dad Becomes a Woman?
The Quiverfull movement is an extreme Christian fundamentalist subculture that bans all birth control and encourages women to have as many children as possible. As such, you might not think that the story of a Quiverfull dad confiding in his wife that he wanted to switch sexes and begin living as a woman would end badly. In this case, at least, you'd be wrong.
The surprisingly sweet story begins with a woman named Melissa having a traditional courtship with her future husband. In this case, by "traditional," I mean "completely chaste and completely under parental supervision." When the two married, they'd never been intimate with anyone, and they lived the "traditional" lifestyle of a married couple in the Quiverfull movement — she stayed home with the kids, he went off to a Christian seminary to study to be a minister, and together, they hoped to start a church for people who home schooled their kids.
But after awhile things, as things tend to do, got more complicated. Melissa's husband began sporadically confessing to having seen "bad stuff" on the internet. And one day, they watched an episode of Tyra together featuring a transgender fashion show, her husband seemed curiously knowledgable about the vocabulary and lingo of the participants. Some time later, Melissa's husband confessed that he had been reading a lot about transsexual people on the internet, and that he felt like he might be a "transsexual"; he'd always felt like he was born in the wrong body, had mourned not being able to be a mother, and coveted his sisters' long hair when he was young. [continue with this blog post or go to orginal blog post here]
Good story. Made me smile. also the part saying that "the church was over them, and they were over the church". I guess it was a good thing the wife also happened to be a lesbian. If my husband wanted to change sex, I would support him (though he would be one ugly woman! LOL) but would not be attracted to him, so we would have needed a separate arrangement.
One wonders what their sex life might have been before the change; it seems neither of them would have been very passionate in their lovemaking, when he wanted to be a woman and she wanted to love a woman. They probably had sex just to have the kids.
I've often wondered how a M2F transsexual feels about having penile sex.
This guy didn't have surgery, did he? (she?)
The short blog post didn't say that I recall (just that he's living as a woman), but the original blog post is very, very long-- at least 7 entries I think, and I didn't read all of that. Just skimmed the first part after reading the blog.
I agree. if she is living as a woman, she is a she. How she identifies herself should be respected, even if she has male genitals.
It's hard to say. A common theme i've heard from trans folks is ways they and their partners picked up on their gender on a subconscious level well before they were able to articulate a desire to transition, and this often included sexual expression.
But from what of the article i read, she doesn't seem to hint at whether this came up for them or not.
To Dallas Gaytheist: like most things regarding human sexuality, it's pretty varied :-D
Some folks have a pretty strong dislike for involving natal sex organs in much of anything, where plenty of others just do the best to work with what erotically sensate tissue they have! Ultimately the penis and clitoris aren't all that different -- being homologous organs to one another. So it's not terribly difficult to relate to one's penis as a large clitoris or (for F2M) a clitoris as a small penis.
I can see that Joe C. Certainly human sexuality is very varied. However, I guess I meant it in terms of thrust. For a man, the urge to thrust is almost uncontrollable, allowing the penis to do what it does best. But for a woman? I'm not sure, having never been with one.
Since women have no sexual feelings in their vagina until a man's penis is properly inserted into it....okay, just kiddding...I couldn't finish that sentence.
I guess I'm just wondering if M2F Female Sexuality counteracts the inclination to thrust.
Not sure if I'm making sense here.
LOL. I see. Yes, for many trans women, they do not have the urge to thrust. But that's not universal. And hormones can effect this as well.
This part bothers me: "When the two married, they'd never been intimate with anyone, and they lived the 'traditional' lifestyle of a married couple in the Quiverfull movement — she stayed home with the kids, he went off to a Christian seminary to study to be a minister, and together, they hoped to start a church for people who home schooled their kids." How Stepford of them! And how threatening to sanity. How any half-well educated, intelligent human could make such a silly pact is beyond imagination. And one of the problems appears to be, they want a lot of babies around, their own or adopted. We appear to be headed for the sort of world envisioned in The Handmaid's Tale. So, the scenario is out of both Ira Levin and Margaret Atwood. Wiki says of the latter's novel, it is "Set in the near future, in a totalitarian theocracy which has overthrown the United States government." Think Santorum on steroids, folks. You could tell that in the movie versioin, the Commander who keeps all his women in check was played with great relish by Robert Duval. A couple catercorner to me homeschools. It is all about religion, believe me. You can tell they do not practice birth control: they have a Brood. Little blue-eye blonds with white skin, just what we really need in the world just now. To think that unless they manage to break the spell, they will procreate little homeschooled blue-eyed blond Christians themselves. Think Malthus. As for Levin's women, they were symbolic of the same threat to our freedom to not believe. Stepford women are forever pregnant and in the kitchen. Both the pill and abortion are mortal sins. The Bible tells us so. (Pssssst! Where?)
I read the whole blog post and it made me feel good; I guess they stop being Quiverfull which was just right... This is a new family formula !