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Evolution Defenders

A group for Secularists, Agnostics, Atheists, etc... who believe we should keep the poison of creationism and Intelligent Design OUT of public school science classrooms.

Location: #science
Members: 63
Latest Activity: Feb 3

ID conspiracy proof... written by the proponents of ID themselves!!!

The Formerly-Secret "Wedge Document" written by the Intelligent Designers themselves. Proof that ID is creationism in disguise.
The Wedge Document.pdf
Also find this document at http://ncseweb.org/

This document was key evidence in the Dover, PA trial featured in "Judgement Day: Intelligent Design on Trial."

Discussion Forum

Why Being Human Makes Evolution Hard to Understand

Started by Neal. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Apr 1, 2017. 6 Replies

Being human makes for foolishness.Cameron M. SmithVolume 37.6, November/December 2013Our difficulty accepting evolution isn’t just because some religions oppose it or that it is complicated—it isn’t.…Continue

Tags: to, understand, atheist, universe, hard

Homo erectus may have doodled on shellfish

Started by Davy. Last reply by Doone Dec 6, 2014. 1 Reply

Early humans from Java used shells for tools and engraving long before Homo sapiens did, new research suggests.The findings, published today in the journal …Continue

Tags: University, National, Museum, of, Australia.

Evolution Notes and News

Started by Doone. Last reply by archaeopteryx Jan 8, 2014. 74 Replies

Date of earliest animal life reset by 30 million years…Continue

Tags: News, and, Notes, Evolution

Promoting Evolution Through Cartoons.....

Started by Neo Jul 8, 2013. 0 Replies

I have been watching Cartoon Network lately. Mainly because adult TV has gotten really boring, but I also still love cartoons. One day I was watching this one show called "The World of Gumball" and…Continue

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Comment by Adriana on February 14, 2012 at 12:30pm

Thanks, Michel! It is great, isn't it?

Comment by Michel on February 14, 2012 at 11:50am

I'm uploading this =)

Comment by Adriana on February 14, 2012 at 9:36am

GREAT ILLUSTRATION OF GEOLOGIC TIME! Go to Earthtime to enlarge and see other cool stuff.

Comment by Davy on February 6, 2012 at 4:49pm

Though we only touched on evolution at school as such,  it also cropped up in geology as when you studied the geological history you had to account for in one layer of stratum you found one set of fossils in another stratum  you found another set of fossils while in yet another stratum another set and so on but the sets of fossils changed where one set of fossils within a set disappeared but were replaced with a newer set of fossils some of the sets though newer were of the same type of creature. Then were extinctions which gave  rise to new creatures that filled the ecological niches that were left vacant by the preceding and now extinct creature. 

By the way Darwin was not the only one to come to the conclusion about evolution of the species there was another man called Alfred Russel Wallace and he is best known for independently proposing a theory of evolution due to natural selection that prompted Charles Darwin to publish his own theory. Before those two was Jean-Baptiste Lamarck proposed a theory on the transmutation of species in Philosophie Zoologique (1809). Lamarck did not believe that all living things shared a common ancestor. Rather he believed that simple forms of life were created continuously by spontaneous generation. 

So when two men come up with the same concept that relied on everything coming from common ancestry that did not rely on spontaneous generation as Lamarck did there must be something to it. 

Comment by Doone on February 5, 2012 at 10:36am

Are Evolution And Belief Incompatible?

A few years ago, Sir David Attenborough seemed to think so:

Attenborough recently changed his tune:

I don't think an understanding and an acceptance of the 4 billion-year-long history of life is any way inconsistent with a belief in a supreme being. And I am not so confident as to say that I am an atheist.

Eric MacDonald strongly dissents:

[T]here could certainly be a god that was consistent with evolution, but that god would be, without a doubt, either evil and cruel, or powerless. And neither type of god would be religiously meaningful. This was Darwin’s problem. He realised, over the years, more and more, that the theory he had discovered was simply inconsistent with the goodness of god, and duck and dive as they please, no one has suggested how to make evolution consistent with a god’s goodness.

Jerry Coyne parses the interview seen above:

Attenborough argues that the existence of pain and suffering in the world does not comport with the existence of a “merciful God that cares about the existence of human beings.” When further asked whether morality reflects the existence of God, Attenborough doesn’t assent, but argues that the Golden Rule is a straightforward moral principle, which I take to mean that it’s an innate feeling that doesn’t need justification via a deity.

Comment by Adriana on February 5, 2012 at 10:12am

Davy! Good to see you! Welcome back, we missed you :-)

Comment by Davy on February 5, 2012 at 6:40am

Keely thanks for the video.

What they forget -- science is not a belief and evolution is part of science. So whether it is taught in school depends on the curriculum. Where as creationism is just exactly that a belief it is not a theory, so if it is going to be taught it should be only taught in church only.

Religion  is what should not be taught in schools because what religion should they teach in school and to teach religion in school you also have to teach every major religion.

I do not know about any of you but I learnt evolution in science but only touched on it was not went in to fully.

It just goes to show the mentality of young women that want to be come social ambassadors for the US. not very pretty.  

Comment by Davy on February 5, 2012 at 6:17am

Dallas. Thanks for the video but what a load of poppycock. They don't even understand the fundamentals of electricity! Protons drive the motor, OH I wish they would give us break.

Comment by Michel on January 4, 2012 at 5:15pm

No problem, we linked to different articles.

Comment by Michel on January 3, 2012 at 4:51pm
World-first hybrid shark found off Australia

SYDNEY — Scientists said on Tuesday that they had discovered the world's first hybrid sharks in Australian waters, a potential sign the predators were adapting to cope with climate change.

The mating of the local Australian black-tip shark with its global counterpart, the common black-tip, was an unprecedented discovery with implications for the entire shark world, said lead researcher Jess Morgan.

"It's very surprising because no one's ever seen shark hybrids before, this is not a common occurrence by any stretch of the imagination," Morgan, from the University of Queensland, told AFP.

"This is evolution in action."

Colin Simpfendorfer, a partner in Morgan's research from James Cook University, said initial studies suggested the hybrid species was relatively robust, with a number of generations discovered across 57 specimens.

The find was made during cataloguing work off Australia's east coast when Morgan said genetic testing showed certain sharks to be one species when physically they looked to be another.

The Australian black-tip is slightly smaller than its common cousin and can only live in tropical waters, but its hybrid offspring have been found 2,000 kilometres down the coast, in cooler seas.

It means the Australian black-tip could be adapting to ensure its survival as sea temperatures change because of global warming.

"If it hybridises with the common species it can effectively shift its range further south into cooler waters, so the effect of this hybridising is a range expansion," Morgan said.

"It's enabled a species restricted to the tropics to move into temperate waters."

Climate change and human fishing are some of the potential triggers being investigated by the team, with further genetic mapping also planned to examine whether it was an ancient process just discovered or a more recent phenomenon.

If the hybrid was found to be stronger than its parent species -- a literal survival of the fittest -- Simpfendorfer said it may eventually outlast its so-called pure-bred predecessors.

"We don't know whether that's the case here, but certainly we know that they are viable, they reproduce and that there are multiple generations of hybrids now that we can see from the genetic roadmap that we've generated from these animals," he said.

"Certainly it appears that they are fairly fit individuals."

The hybrids were extraorindarily abundant, accounting for up to 20 percent of black-tip populations in some areas, but Morgan said that didn't appear to be at the expense of their single-breed parents, adding to the mystery.

Simpfendorfer said the study, published late last month in Conservation Genetics, could challenge traditional ideas of how sharks had and were continuing to evolve.

"We thought we understood how species of sharks have separated, but what this is telling us is that in reality we probably don't fully understand the mechanisms that keep species of shark separate," he said.

"And in fact, this may be happening in more species than these two."

 
 
 

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