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Evolution Defenders

A group for Secularists, Agnostics, Atheists, etc... who believe we should keep the poison of creationism and Intelligent Design OUT of public school science classrooms.

Location: #science
Members: 62
Latest Activity: on Friday

ID conspiracy proof... written by the proponents of ID themselves!!!

The Formerly-Secret "Wedge Document" written by the Intelligent Designers themselves. Proof that ID is creationism in disguise.
The Wedge Document.pdf
Also find this document at

This document was key evidence in the Dover, PA trial featured in "Judgement Day: Intelligent Design on Trial."

Discussion Forum

Why Being Human Makes Evolution Hard to Understand

Started by Neal. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Oct 19, 2016. 5 Replies

Being human makes for foolishness.Cameron M. SmithVolume 37.6, November/December 2013Our difficulty accepting evolution isn’t just because some religions oppose it or that it is complicated—it isn’t.…Continue

Tags: to, understand, atheist, universe, hard

Homo erectus may have doodled on shellfish

Started by Davy. Last reply by doone Dec 6, 2014. 1 Reply

Early humans from Java used shells for tools and engraving long before Homo sapiens did, new research suggests.The findings, published today in the journal …Continue

Tags: University, National, Museum, of, Australia.

Evolution Notes and News

Started by doone. Last reply by archaeopteryx Jan 8, 2014. 74 Replies

Date of earliest animal life reset by 30 million years…Continue

Tags: News, and, Notes, Evolution

Promoting Evolution Through Cartoons.....

Started by Neo Jul 8, 2013. 0 Replies

I have been watching Cartoon Network lately. Mainly because adult TV has gotten really boring, but I also still love cartoons. One day I was watching this one show called "The World of Gumball" and…Continue

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Comment by Chris on December 17, 2016 at 12:58pm

More on my rant about Mike Pence.
The State Beverage is Water.



Even though there aren't seals in Indiana I heard a Bunch of them clapping.

Comment by Chris on December 17, 2016 at 12:18pm

The Don choses Betsy DeVos as Education secretary.

"Betsy DeVos is hardly a household name, but the Michigan billionaire and conservative activist has quietly helped change the education landscape in many states, spending millions of dollars in a successful push to expand voucher programs that give families taxpayer dollars to pay for private and religious schools.

Now DeVos is poised to spread her preference for vouchers nationwide. President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday named her as his nominee for education secretary, a pick that suggests he aims to follow through with campaign promises to expand the movement toward “school choice” — including vouchers and charter schools — in an effort to break up a public education system that he has called “a government-run monopoly.”

Trump’s pick has intensified what already was a polarized debate about school choice. Advocates for such choice see in the Trump administration an extraordinary opportunity to advance their cause on a national scale, whereas teachers unions and many Democrats fear an unprecedented and catastrophic attack on public schools, which they see as one of the nation’s bedrock civic institutions.

[Pence accomplished in Indiana what Trump wants for national education]

Jim DeMint, president of the conservative Heritage Foundation, cheered DeVos on Wednesday, saying that “the school choice movement will have a champion in the Education Department.” American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten said that Trump’s pick “makes it loud and clear that his education policy will focus on privatizing, defunding and destroying public education in America.

As a billionaire Republican power broker with no professional experience in schools, DeVos is an unconventional choice to lead the federal education bureaucracy. And while her views on choice are well known, it is unclear how she would lead a department with responsibilities that sprawl from administering student loans to enforcing civil rights in schools.

She has said little about Common Core, for example, and her ties to organizations that support the K-12 academic standards — including as a board member of the Foundation for Excellence in Education, started by former Florida governor Jeb Bush — raised concern for Trump supporters, who saw her nomination as a sign that the president-elect is wavering on his vehement opposition to the standards.

From her Twitter account Wednesday, DeVos linked to a website where she wrote that she had initially believed in the standards but became disenchanted with them as they “got turned into a federalized boondoggle.”

“I am not a supporter — period,” she wrote.

More in the link

Comment by Chris on December 17, 2016 at 11:55am

To wax and wane check out the PewResearch Center Religion & Public Life

Unfortunately non-believers in strict religious areas (usually from fundamentalist Abrahamic land) often don't have the spine, or support to buck creationism off the educational horse -  

The VP Elect Mike Pence from the skittish "Who's There?" State of Indiana along with (I'm cauterizing my and fingers) other Bible Belt States insist that teaching critical thinking undermines parental authority.

Texas Public Schools Are Teaching Creationism

An investigation into charter schools’ dishonest and unconstitutional science, history, and “values” lessons.

Warning. Don't use skulls for evidence of evolution as they were used as scientific proof in the 1920's that 'races' other than Anglo-Saxons were inferior. 

Comment by Chris on December 17, 2016 at 11:16am

Believe In Evolution: Canadians More Likely Than Americans To Endor...

Where did human beings come from — did we start as singular cells millions of year ago and evolve into our present form, or did God create us in his image 10,000 years ago? 

In a recent survey by Angus Reid Public Opinion, it seems the answer to this scientific — or religious — question is not quite settled. According to the findings, 61 per cent of Canadians and 69 per cent of Britons think human bei... from simpler life forms, while just 30 per cent of Americans agree.

Fifty-one per cent of Americans, meanwhile, think God created people in the past 10,000 years, a belief commonly known as "creationism" that is shared by only 22 per cent of Canadians and 17 per cent of Britons. The remaining respondents said they were "not sure." ...

...Across all three nations, males were more likely than women to believe in evolution, while females expressed a stronger belief in creationism. The study surveyed 1,002 Americans, 2,010 Britons and 1,510 Canadians. It also found regional differences for each belief.


Comment by Tom Sarbeck on December 17, 2016 at 10:21am
The USA is #18 on the list. Ignorant and with nuclear weapons.

Where would Russia be on the list?
Comment by Stephen on December 17, 2016 at 10:00am


Comment by Stephen on November 12, 2016 at 4:14am

Yea I noticed that Mrs.B. very strange to leave out Canada

Comment by Mrs.B on November 12, 2016 at 2:37am

No Canada?

Comment by Stephen on November 11, 2016 at 7:54pm


Comment by Chris on October 19, 2016 at 5:07pm

Here's a source of information that includes a map of paleo cave locations in Eurasia. There are better map sources than this one.  One of the interesting things about the links above is it contains maps of the inside of individual caves.

It's amazing that the ancients were able to navigate into the depths of some of these caves let alone see what they were painting.

Palaeolithic cave-art. Map of distribution

I've seen some interesting above ground palo art in the America's.

I may still have a guide book showing locations of caves along the West Coast of the U.S. that a friend gave me. That book is from the 1940's (?). I don't recall it deliniating where palo art was. I don't know how much of North Western American caves have been scientifically explored or documented. It's been a while since I was interested in it.

I've spelunked a number of times in the NW and MW U.S.. Never underwater (diving) though. Above the water level it's dangerous even with modern lighting. I always carried multiple flashlights and spare bulbs before LED's were available.  In a cave dark is as dark as it can be without artificial light.

I was told that if one is in a cave, or well deep enough where the daylight is blocked but a line of sight to the sky is available it's possible to look and  see the stars even in the daytime. I haven't experienced that though have been into various gold and silver mines.


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