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Evolution Defenders

A group for Secularists, Agnostics, Atheists, etc... who believe we should keep the poison of creationism and Intelligent Design OUT of public school science classrooms.

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ID conspiracy proof... written by the proponents of ID themselves!!!

The Formerly-Secret "Wedge Document" written by the Intelligent Designers themselves. Proof that ID is creationism in disguise.
The Wedge Document.pdf
Also find this document at

This document was key evidence in the Dover, PA trial featured in "Judgement Day: Intelligent Design on Trial."

Discussion Forum

Why Being Human Makes Evolution Hard to Understand

Started by Neal. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Apr 1. 6 Replies

Being human makes for foolishness.Cameron M. SmithVolume 37.6, November/December 2013Our difficulty accepting evolution isn’t just because some religions oppose it or that it is complicated—it isn’t.…Continue

Tags: to, understand, atheist, universe, hard

Homo erectus may have doodled on shellfish

Started by Davy. Last reply by doone Dec 6, 2014. 1 Reply

Early humans from Java used shells for tools and engraving long before Homo sapiens did, new research suggests.The findings, published today in the journal …Continue

Tags: University, National, Museum, of, Australia.

Evolution Notes and News

Started by doone. Last reply by archaeopteryx Jan 8, 2014. 74 Replies

Date of earliest animal life reset by 30 million years…Continue

Tags: News, and, Notes, Evolution

Promoting Evolution Through Cartoons.....

Started by Neo Jul 8, 2013. 0 Replies

I have been watching Cartoon Network lately. Mainly because adult TV has gotten really boring, but I also still love cartoons. One day I was watching this one show called "The World of Gumball" and…Continue

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Comment by Stephen on March 19, 2017 at 2:37pm

Press Release

Richard Dawkins announces Evolution video game

Britsoft game developer Gordie Ross plans on teaching America a lesson

Edinburgh, March 10, 2017: Richard Dawkins and EvoRevo Ltd, the video game team founded by veteran Britsoft game developer Gordie Ross, today launch their Kickstarter campaign for their new entertainment product Richard Dawkins: Evolution.

The video game is set in a solar system similar to the newly charted Trappis 1 where 7 Earth-sized planets were recently discovered by NASA. The game relies on cutting-edge cloud technology to simulate a population of hundreds of thousands of lifeforms as they evolve in wonderful ways.

Richard Dawkins said, “Evolution is happening all the time; however in most cases, the rate of change is so small that it is difficult for a human to come to terms with the length of time involved. Our goal is to strike a balance between explaining that it is a gradual process and showing it happening at a rate that is entertaining to our audience.”
Like The Oregon Trail, an entertaining yet brilliantly educational video game which blazed its own trail in the classrooms of the 1980s, Gordie Ross (the game´s creator) envisions the Richard Dawkins: Evolution video game will ultimately make its way out of the home and into the classroom alongside exciting and entertaining learning resources.

Gordie Ross said, “Ultimately we see America as the greatest challenge where roughly 40% of the population believes the Earth is less than 10 thousand years old. Using a video game, we hope to additionally talk to this different audience who generally do not read science books. It´s Richard and I´s hope to trigger a curiosity about Evolution and Science that sets a new generation on an amazing journey of discovery.”

The Kickstarter runs until the 10th of April and the minimum goal is £50K ($62.5K US dollars) to support the running of the community and game servers. Kickstarter backers will be invited to help shape the features of the game and enjoy free early access plus heavily discounted subscription rates with some rewards including unlimited lifetime access. Flexible academic licenses are available during the Kickstarter for those who wish to provide Richard Dawkins: Evolution and learning materials to whole classrooms or schools.
For more information and to back the creation of Richard Dawkins: Evolution, visit the project’s Kickstarter page:

You can also follow the progress of the funding campaign and the creation of the game on Facebook:

“I’ve read many of his (Richard Dawkins) books over the years, including The Selfish Gene and The Blind Watchmaker…. I consider him to be one of the great scientific writer/explainers of all time.” – Bill Gates


Comment by Stephen on March 16, 2017 at 7:58pm

Last hominin standing

Was human evolution inevitable, or do we owe our existence to a once-in-a-universe stroke of luck?

In the movie Sliding Doors (1998), a woman named Helen, played by Gwyneth Paltrow, rushes to catch a train on the London Underground, but just misses it, watching helplessly from the platform as the doors slide shut. The film explores two alternative universes, comparing the missed-train universe to a parallel reality in which she caught the train just in time. It wasn’t a cinematic masterpiece – the critics aggregated at Rotten Tomatoes give it only a 63 per cent ‘fresh’ rating – but it vividly confronts a question that many of us have asked at one time or another: if events had unfolded slightly differently, what would the world be like?

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Comment by Stephen on February 17, 2017 at 2:58pm

Exactly Mrs.B. The Mammoth has had its evolutionary chance and lost.

Comment by Mrs.B on February 17, 2017 at 2:44pm

I see not benefit by ''bringing something back''......

Comment by Stephen on February 17, 2017 at 2:36pm

George Church's team closing in on hybrid mammoth elephant embryo using CRISPR genome editing to increase to 45 genome edits of elephant from 15 edits a few years ago

Scientist leading ‘de-extinction’ effort says Harvard team could cr...

“Our aim is to produce a hybrid elephant-mammoth embryo,” said Harvard Prof George Church. “Actually, it would be more like an elephant with a number of mammoth traits. We’re not there yet, but it could happen in a couple of years.”
The creature, sometimes referred to as a “mammophant”, would be partly elephant, but with features such as small ears, subcutaneous fat, long shaggy hair and cold-adapted blood. The mammoth genes for these traits are spliced into the elephant DNA using the powerful gene-editing tool, Crispr

Until now, the team have stopped at the cell stage, but are now moving towards creating embryos – although, they said that it would be many years before any serious attempt at producing a living creature.

“We’re working on ways to evaluate the impact of all these edits and basically trying to establish embryogenesis in the lab,” said Church.

Since starting the project in 2015 the researchers have increased the number of “edits” where mammoth DNA has been spliced into the elephant genome from 15 to 45.

“We already know about ones to do with small ears, subcutaneous fat, hair and blood, but there are others that seem to be positively selected,” he said.

Church also outlined plans to grow the hybrid animal within an artificial womb rather than recruit a female elephant as a surrogate mother - a plan which some believe will not be achievable within the next decade.

“We hope to do the entire procedure ex-vivo (outside a living body),” he said. “It would be unreasonable to put female reproduction at risk in an endangered species.”

He added that his lab is already capable of growing a mouse embryo in an artificial womb for 10 days - halfway through its gestation period.

Comment by Stephen on February 17, 2017 at 12:19pm
Comment by Stephen on February 17, 2017 at 12:18pm

Sixth and eighth cervical vertebrae of specimen NMB So.596 in dorsal, ventral, anterior, posterior, left, and right views. Abbreviations: cen, centrum; nea, neural arch; poz, postzygapophysis; prz, prezygapophysis; trp, transverse process.

Sixth and eighth cervical vertebrae of specimen NMB So.596 in dorsal, ventral, anterior, posterior, left, and right views. Abbreviations: cen, centrum; nea, neural arch; poz, postzygapophysis; prz, prezygapophysis; trp, transverse process.

A Jurassic stem pleurodire sheds light on the functional origin of neck retraction in turtles

Comment by Stephen on January 29, 2017 at 9:48am

Penis bones from various mammals. The baculum varies so much in terms of length and whether it is present at all, that it is described as the most diverse bone ever to exist. Photograph: KPA/Zuma/REX/Shutterstock

Penis bones from various mammals. The baculum varies so much in terms of length and whether it is present at all, that it is described as the most diverse bone ever to exist. Photograph: KPA/Zuma/REX/Shutterstock

Why don't humans have a penis bone? Scientists may now know

It can be as long as a finger in a monkey. In the walrus, it can be two feet long. But the human male has lost it completely. And researchers are a little stumped.

Known as the baculum to scientists with an interest, the penis bone is a marvel of evolution. It pops up in mammals and primates around the world, but varies so much in terms of length and whether it is present at all, that it is described as the most diverse bone ever to exist.

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Comment by Mrs.B on January 27, 2017 at 1:33am

I can't see Pence & scump getting along in the long run, but who knows?

Comment by Stephen on January 26, 2017 at 5:28pm

I’ve got news for Mike Pence and his view on evolution, writes Steve Jones

In physical terms Homo sapiens is enfeebled indeed, but for the grey matter, things are different

Mike Pence: insists life is the product of a designer, perhaps 6,000 years ago REUTERS

The time for experts, we are told, is over. Undaunted, my Ladybird Expert book on Evolution came out on Tuesday, accompanied by others on climate change and quantum mechanics, with more to come.  

Nobody can speak a language without understanding how it fits together. Evolution is the grammar of biology. It unites the study of plants, animals and people into a single science. Without it, the subject would be a list of disconnected facts, as it was until 1859, when Charles Darwin published The Origin of Species. Most people in the world do not believe him, or in evolution. The new American Vice-President, Mike Pence, is among them and insists that life is the product of a designer, perhaps 6,000 years ago. 

Creationists, unfortunately, do not know what Darwin’s ideas actually were. They involve “descent with modification”: the accumulation of errors over the generations. 

This raw material is refined in the furnace of natural selection — inherited differences in the chance of reproducing — to give new forms of life. Darwin called his book “one long argument”. It moves from the obvious to the outrageous: from cattle-breeding to the claim that “light will be cast on man and his origins”. 

My own shorter version goes from foxes to human frailty. In 1959 a Russian biologist set out to breed silver foxes, their fur used for winter hats. 

At first, the animals were terrified by humans and almost impossible to deal with. He began to breed only from the five per cent that allowed him to approach their cages without going into a frenzy.  

Within a few generations the animals became calm and began to bark and wag their tails. They were not black with a few silver hairs but much paler. They now sell for thousands as pets, but they are diminished versions of their wild relatives. We are just the same: domesticated apes, and reduced renditions of our ancestors. 


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