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Our Climate, Scumpism is Denialism

Where we share information on climatology and the changing Earth's climate.

With of course a special thought for deniers and those who would profit from denial.

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Blokes, it's time to man-up and face the snip - the future of the planet could well depend upon your decision, argues Dr Paul Willis who is the director of …Continue

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Not just the Koch brothers: New study reveals funders behind the climate change denial effort

Started by Davy. Last reply by Chris Jan 12, 2014. 3 Replies

A new study conducted by Drexel University's environmental sociologist Robert J. Brulle, PhD,exposes the organizational underpinnings and funding behind the powerful climate change counter-movement.…Continue

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Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on October 31, 2012 at 7:15pm

NBC's Chuck Todd Blames Climate Change For Hurricane Sandy

“Let's not bury our heads in the sand when it comes to something has changed in the Atlantic. The climate has changed. It's called climate change, folks.”

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on October 31, 2012 at 7:15pm

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Comment by Michel on October 31, 2012 at 2:07pm

Repubs will claim the first big peak was caused by Clinton's election.

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on October 31, 2012 at 1:43pm

Chart Of The Day


Dylan Matthews tallied weather-related fatalities:

As Wonkblog’s Brad Plumer explained in a Monday post, it’s hard to attribute single weather events to climate change. But clearly something is causing the across-the-board rise in weather-related deaths, and global climate change, which worsens hurricanes and promotes heat waves and tornadoes, may be a prime culprit.

Comment by Michel on October 31, 2012 at 9:46am

there is the implication or overt accusation that the environmentalist goal is world government.

Would not be such a bad idea IMO, considering how fast-shrinking is our ball of rock.

Comment by Chris on October 31, 2012 at 3:00am

Origin of the climate hoax. The following paper covers how a few wayward scientists and Michael Critcton, the science fiction writer began and perpetuated the idea the science behind climate change was/is a hoax. Challenging knowledge: How climate science became a victim of the Cold War.

This paper was first presented at the conference “Agnotology: The Cultural Production of Ignorance,” Stanford University, October 7-8, 2005.

How Climate Science Became a Victim of the Cold War (page 33)
On first glance, it seems just plain weird that several of the same
individuals—all retired physicists—were involved in denying that cancer causes smoking, that pollution causes acid rain, that CFCs destroy ozone, and that greenhouse gas emissions are causing global warming. But when you put these things together—tobacco regulation, the banning of CFCs, the delay of controls on CO2 emissions—then they do add up, summing to a radical free market ideology that opposes any action restricting the pursuit of market capitalism, no matter the justification.

Throughout the literature of climate change denial, a recurrent theme is that environmentalists are motivated by the desire to bring down the capitalist system and to replace it with socialism or communism. Along with this, there is the implication or overt accusation that the environmentalist goal is world government.

In her Ph.D. dissertation, anthropologist Myanna Lahsen studied the
phenomenon of physicists who deny global warming, and suggested that their actions were driven in large part by the downfall of physics as America’s “prestige science.” The reduction of funding and opportunity in physics, and its succession by biological and Earth sciences as the dominant sciences of the era, led them to challenge climate science in a kind of turf war. Moreover, these physicists had
little regard for the distinctively different methodologies and standards of evidence of these sciences, seeing them as less rigorous than the methods and standards of physics. Members of an “old guard” no longer connected to the highest levels of science, they could not accept that a new generation of scientific leaders, from “lesser” sciences than physicists, were replacing them in the role of speaking truth
to power...

...We believe that Lahsen is closer to the mark with another point. Following Richard Hofstader, she situates these men within the political tradition that Hofstader called “the paranoid style” in American politics: a style that sees grand conspiracies to undermine America’s free-market system and constant threats to American liberty. The political preferences of climate change “contrarians,” including Singer, Nierenberg, and Seitz, can be characterized, Lahsen argues, as
anti-communist, pro-capitalist, and anti-government interference. We agree. Indeed, philanthropist George Soros has given this perspective a more succinct label: “market fundamentalism.”89 Market fundamentalists hold a dogmatic, even quasi-religious, belief in unfettered market capitalism, and oppose anything that restrains the business community, be it restrictions on the sale of tobacco or the
emission of greenhouse gases.

More here the paper is 61 pages (20 of them are references) pg. 1-39 is an easy and quick read.

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on October 30, 2012 at 3:29pm

Quote For The Day

"There has been a series of extreme weather incidents. That is not a political statement, that is a factual statement. Anyone who says there is not a dramatic change in weather patterns is denying reality," - New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.

Comment by Michel on October 30, 2012 at 1:04pm

The Boardwalk in Atlantic City

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on October 29, 2012 at 8:32pm

Man-Made Natural Disasters, Ctd

Brad Plumer uses the hurricane to discuss global warming

You can see how a combination of rising sea levels, tides, and storms could affect different parts of the United States with this helpful GIS mapping tool from Climate Central. For New York City, the map showed just a 15 percent chance of a major six-foot surge by 2020—it takes a rare storm like Sandy and high tides to pull it off. But as the world warms and sea levels rise, the odds of a big storm surge increase. Suddenly, that freak event won’t be so rare anymore.

Elizabeth Kolbert chimes in:

Coming as it is just a week before Election Day, Sandy makes the fact that climate change has been entirely ignored during this campaign seem all the more grotesque. In a year of record-breaking temperatures across the U.S., record drought conditions in the country’s corn belt, and now a record storm affecting the nation’s most populous cities, neither candidate found the issue to be worthy of discussion. Pressed about this finally the other day on MTV, President Obama called climate change a “critical issue” that he was “surprised” hadn’t come up during any of the debates, a response that was at once completely accurate and totally disingenuous. (As one commentator pointed out, he might have brought up this “critical” issue on his own since “he is the friggin’ POTUS.”)

Earlier commentary here.

Comment by Michel on October 29, 2012 at 10:48am

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