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Our Climate, Scumpism is Denialism

Where we share information on climatology and the changing Earth's climate.

With of course a special thought for deniers and those who would profit from denial.

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A snip for the planet

Started by Davy. Last reply by Chris May 2, 2015. 18 Replies

Blokes, it's time to man-up and face the snip - the future of the planet could well depend upon your decision, argues Dr Paul Willis who is the director of …Continue

Tags: consumption., resource, global, contraception, Vasectomy

Off Shore Wind Farms an Unforeseen Bonus

Started by Davy. Last reply by Lester Unega Waya Apr 3, 2014. 5 Replies

Off Shore Wind Farms an Unforeseen BonusOffshore wind turbines like those being planned off the East Coast could one day do double duty for residents, according to a new study.Scientists at the…Continue

Tags: electricity, generation, turbine, force, farm

Not just the Koch brothers: New study reveals funders behind the climate change denial effort

Started by Davy. Last reply by Chris Jan 12, 2014. 3 Replies

A new study conducted by Drexel University's environmental sociologist Robert J. Brulle, PhD,exposes the organizational underpinnings and funding behind the powerful climate change counter-movement.…Continue

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Comment by Adriana on October 29, 2012 at 8:28am

It seems we will be hit pretty hard; so far it's windy, some rain, doesn't look too bad; the expressway is almost empty. The worst is supposed to hit tonight.

Comment by Marianne on October 28, 2012 at 11:19pm

It seeems the weather is making itself known again quite dramatically, but in New York this time.

Comment by Chris on October 28, 2012 at 3:11pm

Here's a couple of energy storage methods; Compressed Air Energy Storage and heated sodium, or oil. Spain has a solar plant that continues to generate electricity up to 15 hours at night.

Comment by Davy on October 28, 2012 at 2:50pm

Plus also as they said if you use solar, wind or wave derived energy to fuel the process it truly does two things. Converts CO2 to a fuel while in creating that fuel they also store the sun's energy. Which means that when no winds blow or it's a cloudy day the fuel is there then to produce electrical energy. Like at the present there is no way to effectively and efficiently store electrical energy once it is produced by solar or wind methods. Waves Keep on rolling day and night. 

Comment by Chris on October 28, 2012 at 1:49pm

Romney’s New Global-Warming ‘Joke’

September 3, 2012

Exclusive: At the Republican National Convention and on the campaign trail, Mitt Romney has come up with a new laugh line, mocking President Obama’s policies to slow global warming. In doing so, Romney distorts a quote from an Obama speech in 2008 about ocean levels, reports Robert Parry.

By Robert Parry

Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has offered few details about how he would run the U.S. government, but he has made clear one thing about his environmental views: he has contempt for President Barack Obama’s efforts to promote alternative energy and combat global warming.

Fitting with the new Republican orthodoxy that climate-change science is either a hoax or hysteria, Romney has incorporated into his speeches a joke about Obama’s interest in protecting the environment, a sure-fire laugh line for the GOP faithful.

In his acceptance speech on Thursday, Romney said, “President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans (pause for mocking laughter) and heal the planet. MY promise is to help you and your family.”

Romney apparently was so thrilled with the success of his new “joke” that he repeated it while on a post-convention campaign swing. In Cincinnati, Ohio, on Saturday, he elicited more laughs from the crowd when he claimed Obama “famously said he was going to slow the rise of the oceans.” Romney added, “Our promise to you is this: we’re going to help the American people.”

Not surprisingly, Romney’s recitation of what Obama said isn’t correct. Obama never said “he was going to slow the rise of the oceans,” but rather he said – in his June 4, 2008, victory speech after clinching the Democratic nomination – that “the American people,” i.e. by changing policies and leaders, would look back at this moment as the time “the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

But more important than Romney’s rhetorical exaggeration is that his ridicule of global-warming again counterpoises that longer-term existential threat to mankind against the short-term interests of today’s voters, suggesting that President Romney would ignore the former in favor of the latter.

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Comment by Chris on October 28, 2012 at 1:27pm

Good point doone. An advantage to making gasoline out of the air is it would remove the C thus improve the climate.

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on October 28, 2012 at 1:03pm

The world uses about 5e+12 kg of crude oil per year and there is only 1e15 kilograms of C in the Co2 in the atmosphere, they would have to use a lot of the atmoshphere to make a dent in the supply or supply a significant amount of carbon.  The energy they would need to use to suck in most of the atmosphere per year would be pretty fantastic.  

On the other hand, maybe it could be useful in small amounts.  

Comment by Chris on October 28, 2012 at 12:50pm

British Engineers Create Gasoline Out of Thin Air
Create fuel out of thin air? Is that really possible?

Air Fuel Synthesis, a small company located in Stockton-on-Tees, in the north of England, claims they have developed an “air capture” technology allowing them to create synthetic gasoline using only air and electricity.

With the push to lower carbon emissions and our overall carbon footprint, what’s appealing about this technology is that it can produce carbon-neutral gasoline.

The Christian Science Monitor explains how it works:

The process starts by blowing atmospheric air into a tower containing the sodium hydroxide, which binds to the carbon dioxide to form sodium carbonate.

Adding energy to that substance splits out the carbon dioxide specifically, which is then stored for later use.

Next, a dehumidifier removes water vapor from the air, and more energy is added to separate the hydrogen and oxygen molecules.

Mix the hydrogen with the carbon dioxide in the right proportions and you produce a synthetic gaseous hydrocarbon.

That, in turn, can be processed into methanol–which can be further turned into synthetic gasoline.

The resulting gasoline can either be used in vehicles directly or blended with conventionally extracted and refined gasoline.

By clicking here, you can access an interactive diagram that will provide a visual demonstration of how this process works.

According to Air Fuel Synthesis, the resulting fuel can be used in any regular gasoline tank and even better, if renewable energy is used to provide the electricity it could become “completely carbon neutral.”

Company executives hope to build a refinery size operation within the next 15 years.

Well, certainly if that’s true, it’s an amazing breakthrough.

From The Telegraph:

Institution of Mechanical Engineers (IMechE) officials admitted that while the described the technology as being “too good to be true but it is true”, it could prove to be a “game-changer” in the battle against climate change.

Stephen Tetlow, the IMechE chief executive, hailed the breakthrough as “truly groundbreaking”.

“It has the potential to become a great British success story, which opens up a crucial opportunity to reduce carbon emissions,” he said.

Developing the technology that can have a real impact on climate change while reducing dependence on foreign oil supplies sounds great, but are there any downsides here?

The biggest one seems to be the question of where the energy for this process will come from, since outside energy is needed to facilitate the technology at a few stages.

New Scientist points out that this will only be truly carbon-neutral gasoline if all that energy comes from renewable sources like solar, wind or water. On the other hand, if the necessary energy comes from burning coal, then the whole process is hardly carbon-neutral.

Indeed, many critics have been skeptical of the technology, questioning how much energy it would take to produce this gasoline.

Stay tuned, while we wait to see if this is truly green gasoline. Can engineers really produce fuel that looks and smells like the real thing, but is much cleaner?

Whatever the answer, this is an exciting prospect!

Comment by Doone has Fremdschämen on October 26, 2012 at 9:24pm

Man-Made Natural Disasters

Bill McKibben sees Hurricane Sandy as a window into "what the future may be like, as more and more of the world finds itself facing ever more frequent assaults from the amped-up forces of the not-so-natural world":

You can’t, as the climate-change deniers love to say, blame any particular hurricane on global warming. They’re born, as they always have been, when a tropical wave launches off the African coast and heads out into the open ocean. But when that ocean is hot—and at the moment sea surface temperatures off the northeast are five degrees higher than normal—a storm like Sandy can lurch north longer and stronger, drawing huge quantities of moisture into its clouds and then dumping them ashore.

Comment by Neal on October 26, 2012 at 8:05am

They do not want to talk about real problems.

 

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