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A Woman's right to choose

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A Woman's right to choose

         Women's rights arguments in favour of abortion

 

 

  1. Woman have a right to decide what to do with their bodies
  2. You can’t have gender equality without the right to have an abortion
  3. Banning abortion puts woman at risk by forcing them to use illegal abortionists
  4. The right to an abortion should be part of a group of pregnancy rights that allows woman to have a free informed choice to end a pregnancy 

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Patient’s Right to Know

Started by Mrs.B. Last reply by Chris Nov 23, 2016. 39 Replies

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Abortion – A Different Perspective

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Andy Stout Oct 7, 2016. 43 Replies

Yet another piece I wrote a LONG time ago, but considering the current attacks on a woman's right to control her own body, I think the relevance of the following still maintains.  Let me know what…Continue

Tags: perspective, Roe v Wade, abortion

Prosecuted for Having Abortions

Started by Mrs.B. Last reply by Chris Apr 21, 2016. 7 Replies

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Comment by Stephen on January 3, 2018 at 3:41

Three cheers for Canada. Miles ahead of their southern neighbour.

Comment by Mrs.B on January 3, 2018 at 3:29

B.C. to cover cost of abortion pill Mifegymiso

Starting Jan. 15, province to become the sixth in Canada to make the pill universally available at no cost............

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-to-cover-cost-of...

Comment by Chris on December 30, 2017 at 16:29

I couldn't be more sarcastic than Barrhingtoh H Brennan if I tried.

Any time someone uses the word womb for womans Uterus it should be known it going to be barnyard talk. In this case about the cows unable to calf.

Barington H. Brennan must have spent years in sensitivity training in the chuch, or barn.

Sounds of Encouragement for women without children by Barrington H. Brennan, May 26 2015.

Barrington  obviousely knows about biblical scripture and a specific work enviornment.

http://www.soencouragement.org/womenwithoutchildren.htm

Recently a few women talked with me about a serious concern they had.  The common factor among these women was that they all had no children.  Their concern was that their friends, co-workers, and sometimes family members would say unkind things to them or made their own ridiculous conclusions why they did not have children.  A few months would not pass without someone saying to them something like this: “You need to have a child so you can be happier.”  These women said that it is very difficult to convince everyone that they are happy and do not want children.

 

Why do so many of us conclude something negative when people do not have children?  It seems by default that a woman without children is incomplete, as a man without children is queer.  What absurdity!  Mothers who’ve had miscarriages or still births also experience similar responses from their family members or friends.  I actually heard someone remarked to a mother who recently lost a baby through miscarriage these words: “You must have done something wrong to cause this to happen to you.”  Here’s another: “Child, my mother never had a miscarriage.”   This is to suggest that her family’s wombs are of better quality.

Read more from him here

Comment by Chris on December 30, 2017 at 6:50

I wanna baby at any cost.

Just because doctors can should they?

ETHICAL STANDARDS?

Will Uterus Transplants Change the Way We Perceive Gender? The medi...

This year, the United States passed a medical milestone: the first baby in the nation born through a transplanted uterus. Reports on the specific number of successful births via transplanted uterus vary, but all place the count at fewer than 30 births.

However, the number is expected to rise exponentially in the immediate future.

“We’re hoping that in a decade or so, this will become mainstream,” Dr. Zaraq Khan, a Mayo Clinic reproductive endocrinologist and infertility surgeon, told HuffPost.

The procedure is currently limited to a specific set of patients who fit narrow medical criteria for eligibility.

“As of right now, when uterus transplantation is still in its infancy, it will be limited to patients with absolute uterine factor infertility,” Khan said. This excludes women who, for example, are able to conceive but routinely miscarry.

While bioethical questions remain, some wonder if the technology may one day allow men to eventually carry and birth children.

Dr. Richard Paulson, the outgoing president of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, believes such procedures are already within the scope of immediate possibility for transgendered women.

“You could do it tomorrow. There would be additional challenges, but I don't see any obvious problem that would preclude it,” Paulson told the Telegraph. “I personally suspect there are going to be trans women who are going to want to have a uterus and will likely get the transplant."

But Arthur Caplan, a professor of bioethics and head of the Division of Medical Ethics at New York University's School of Medicine, told LiveScience that performing such a procedure now would violate ethical standards.

Comment by Chris on December 30, 2017 at 3:27

When did abortion become illegal?

HISTORY OF ABORTION
http://www.feminist.com/resources/ourbodies/abortion.html

The following is an exclusive excerpt from the "Abortion" chapter of Our Bodies, Ourselves for the New Century. For complete information and resources, we recommend that you consult the chapter and the book in its entirety.

HISTORY OF ABORTION

Over several centuries and in different cultures, there is a rich history of women helping each other to abort. Until the late 1800s, women healers in Western Europe and the U.S. provided abortions and trained other women to do so, without legal prohibitions.

The State didn't prohibit abortion until the 19th century, nor did the Church lead in this new repression. In 1803, Britain first passed antiabortion laws, which then became stricter throughout the century. The U.S. followed as individual states began to outlaw abortion. By 1880, most abortions were illegal in the U.S., except those ``necessary to save the life of the woman.'' But the tradition of women's right to early abortion was rooted in U.S. society by then; abortionists continued to practice openly with public support, and juries refused to convict them.

Abortion became a crime and a sin for several reasons. A trend of humanitarian reform in the mid-19th century broadened liberal support for criminalization, because at that time abortion was a dangerous procedure done with crude methods, few antiseptics, and high mortality rates. But this alone cannot explain the attack on abortion. For instance, other risky surgical techniques were considered necessary for people's health and welfare and were not prohibited. ``Protecting'' women from the dangers of abortion was actually meant to control them and restrict them to their traditional child-bearing role. Antiabortion legislation was part of an antifeminist backlash to the growing movements for suffrage, voluntary motherhood, and other women's rights in the 19th century. *For more information, see Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right, rev. ed. (New York: Penguin Books, 1990).

At the same time, male doctors were tightening their control over the medical profession. Doctors considered midwives, who attended births and performed abortions as part of their regular practice, a threat to their own economic and social power. The medical establishment actively took up the antiabortion cause in the second half of the 19th century as part of its effort to eliminate midwives.

Finally, with the declining birth rate among whites in the late 1800s, the U.S. government and the eugenics movement warned against the danger of ``race suicide'' and urged white, native-born women to reproduce. Budding industrial capitalism relied on women to be unpaid household workers, low-paid menial workers, reproducers, and socializers of the next generation of workers. Without legal abortion, women found it more difficult to resist the limitations of these roles.

Then, as now, making abortion illegal neither eliminated the need for abortion nor prevented its practice. In the 1890s, doctors estimated that there were two million abortions a year in the U.S. (compared with one and a half million today). Women who are determined not to carry an unwanted pregnancy have always found some way to try to abort. All too often, they have resorted to dangerous, sometimes deadly methods, such as inserting knitting needles or coat hangers into the vagina and uterus, douching with dangerous solutions like lye, or swallowing strong drugs or chemicals. The coat hanger has become a symbol of the desperation of millions of women who have risked death to end a pregnancy. When these attempts harmed them, it was hard for women to obtain medical treatment; when these methods failed, women still had to find an abortionist.

Comment by Chris on December 25, 2017 at 6:03

Laws making abortion illegal must have started in other countries at different times through history and culture.  

Consider the One Child policy in China. 

Comment by Chris on December 25, 2017 at 5:59

Comment by Stephen on Wednesday

Don't you mean legal Chris?

No!, Stephen, I meant

"When did abortion become illegal?"

The National Abortion Federation provides the following among other information.

Making Abortion Illegal

In the mid-to-late 1800s states began passing laws that made abortion illegal. The motivations for anti-abortion laws varied from state to state. One of the reasons included fears that the population would be dominated by the children of newly arriving immigrants, whose birth rates were higher than those of “native” Anglo-Saxon women.

Comment by Stephen on December 19, 2017 at 21:29

Don't you mean legal Chris?

Comment by Chris on December 19, 2017 at 19:10

I worked with an old Cowboy who asked about Infanticide. For some reason he talked about it with me quite a bit.

Comment by Suzanna on December 19, 2017 at 4:30

Thanks Chris, what great work they are doing.

 

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