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Hat tip to Jaume, who started this discussion elsewhere. I think it's a good discussion to revamp periodically anyway. New events and knowledge may prompt us to shift our opinion on what the greatest moral challenge of our times is.
As informed atheist thinkers and secular humanists, what do you think is the greatest moral challenge of our times?
Here are my thoughts: the greatest challenge is to stop the exploitation of the poor by the rich, of underdeveloped countries by the developed world. In order to do that, we need to change the current prevailing socio-economic model that we have in the Western world (and that seems to be taking root elsewhere, for example in China, Japan would be another example, no surprise that Japan is among the original founders of the G-8). We cannot have gluttonous consumption of resources and expect sustained, increased economic growth and utilization of natural resources. I feel that if we manage to change the socio-economic models, other things I think are big moral challenges will improve: the environment, treatment of animals destined for consumption, etc.
If I knew how to achieve this, I'd be running for President, I suppose. One idea that comes to mind is we need more education, more information, real democracies with truly free media, and yes, more regulation to foster greater fairness.
I look forward to your opinion.
Tags: consumption, development, economy, education, exploitation, human rights, moral challenge
Permalink Reply by Dallas the Phallus on March 14, 2011 at 1:25pm
Permalink Reply by fester60613 on March 14, 2011 at 4:52pm I agree that stopping the exploitation of the poor by the rich is very important. However, there is a burgeoning food shortage that will soon turn into a problem of global proportions. We have to make sure the poor don't starve to death before we can help them escape their exploitation... if that's even possible. History would seem to demonstrate that the poor always have been exploited in some way or another by the rich. Perhaps it's merely a part of the human condition that won't be solved until economic and social equity have been achieved?
And then I wonder what the moral choices might be to achieve those equities?

Permalink Reply by Adriana on March 14, 2011 at 4:56pm
Permalink Reply by fester60613 on March 15, 2011 at 6:03am The food shortage is caused by environmental changes. Floods are on the rise (take the pun where you find it) and droughts are starting to become more severe. We simply can't grow as much food as we used to grow. The corn crops have been decimated and prices keep rising. There have been food riots in India and several parts of Africa. So the crisis is bad and getting worse.
Empowering women is a tried and true method of getting families out of poverty. Microloans in India and the middle east have proven that.
As for the church - well! Don't get me started. Some ass wipe Cardinal was going on about global warming the other day. One would think that with the church's abysmal history of anti-science and getting it just plain wrong these idiots would just STFU. I'd like to bitch slap a few cardinals... and Ratzi should be arrested and thrown into a dungeon at Castlefranco - on general principle. See? I got started!

Permalink Reply by Adriana on March 15, 2011 at 7:33am You are correct, food shortages are getting worse because of climate change.
Get started all you want with the Church, it's one of my favorite subjects to get going on, LOL. The last thing we need is bishops speaking about climate change, they are so knowledgeable about science! Gag me.

Permalink Reply by Jean Marie on March 14, 2011 at 5:39pm uhm, for me, personally, my greatest moral challenge is not killing my theist rightwinger neighbors....
just kidding.
Permalink Reply by Bay_Naam on March 15, 2011 at 4:17am I hope i got it right, for me the greatest moral dilemma is not giving freedom of expressions and thoughts(non violent) to fellow humans.
I wish there are more naked marathon in western world. I wish there are more naked prayers( muslims prayers) on xxx tubes( in the coutries where internet is common like), with proper check and balance by atheist think tanks. I wish there are more atheist video games books and rhymes for kids.
u can ask Why and How questions?

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