If you don't get the video above try this one.
This one's even better.
The interviewer did a terrible job - though I suppose the job of an interviewer is to encourage the speaker to talk and express opinions rather than challenge the speakers opinions.
Have you ever seen someone such as other than Jordan Peterson who didn't speak with their hands. It appears to me that he's cuffing them in a finger lock.
Jordan Perterson says men typically are more interested in things and women are more interested in people.