Feedback and Notes

We are a worldwide social network of freethinkers, atheists, agnostics and secular humanists.

Birthdays

Real Life: What We Don't Say About Politics, Religion or Sexuality Because...

...what we want to say may frighten those whose approval we seek.

 

What we don't talk about will be used to rule over us.

I first heard those words while I was neck-deep in serious politics and immediately saw their truth.

Later, retired and studying politics to help me understand what I'd learned, I found the following by the Roman statesman Tacitus:

Were the people to rule themselves they would create trust. May they ever have distrust for one another, for as our need for power hurries us on, fortune can give us no greater gift than their mutual distrust.

We are hearing from people whose need for power hurries them on. We call them "candidates" and perhaps a few names that tell how we feel about them.

What say you about what you don't talk about?

Views: 93

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

I have known people who were political candidates for office that I have trusted and they have not let me down. these are very few and far from the normal crowd we get as candidates these days. And sadly those people I have trusted and didn't let me down also didn't last very long. for some reason voters are confused by honest politicians.

Stephen, comparing my 85-year-old self with my teenage self, I'm relatively honest. I accept the existence of relatively honest and relatively dishonest politicians.

That's why most of the territories in the USA that most recently become states have in their constitutions provisions for the direct initiative. Voters can enact laws without obstruction by the legislators they elect.

In California next month we will vote on whether to do that by requiring that bills in the legislature must be published on the Internet for 72 hours before a final vote in the legislature.

While doing serious politics in Arizona I learned that pro-statehood people there a century ago saw the corruption in eastern states and wrote the direct initiative into their draft constitution. (New Jersey may be the worst because the governor appoints all state officials.)

If we ever get the direct initiative in our national constitution, we will first have to put it into more than the 18 state constitutions that now have it. More of us have to WANT the government that Churchill said is the worst except for all the other kinds we homo not-yet-sapiens have tried.

I won't bet a large amount that we Yanks will do it before we wreck the earth.

Tom just a short reply for the moment. But I'm curious have you ever thought about putting all your experiences and history down on paper or even a long blog. Its sounds like you have experienced a lot in your life. I for one would be interested in reading about all the things you've done and seen. 

Thanks, Stephen.

I achieved a bit of fame (infamy in the eyes of a few) in Arizona politics but not enough to warrant a memoir. If I find titles-with-hooks for its parts, a blog might be mildly narcissistic fun for a while.

Infamy is good. And its always more interesting than fame. ha ha

I mailed my ballot in last week.

California Politics is interesting. In some respects it's at the leading edge. 

When Oregon started the option to vote by mail the ballot required a stamp - which was in effect a pole tax.

My 'freind' who said he voted and mailed his ballot in the day he received it told me today that he thought he had to check, or vote for everything on the ballot.

I told him that it's okay to only vote for things and people he knows and cares about and it's okay to not select options.

We spoke about hanging chads and voter fraud. His family is from the Philippines and Hong Kong. I appreciate his worry about voting fraud. 

He works as a teachers assistant at a middle school. I don't know any kids. Are they being taught about the electoral process, separation of power and what not?

I can't tell if or when he's joking, or just testing my knowledge. 

Iceland is doing some interesting things.

(I'm glad spell check with my upgrade to ver 10.12.1 is finally working okay - 10.12.0 was terrible.)

My parents provided well but never talked politics. If I hadn't gone to college I might have grown up much like them.

I went to college and when I became politically active (at age 41) was like a kid in first grade; I didn't know how to distinguish between a relatively honest politician and a relatively dishonest politician. That is a disadvantage.

Is there a difference between an honiest politician and a dishonist politician?

At the  local level there may be.

Money in politics has has made it diffucult for the common person to contribute.

RSS

© 2017   Created by Atheist Universe.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Service