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Is it moral for our governments to impose poverty on us?

Is it moral for our governments to impose poverty on us?

Taxation determines what poverty levels will exist within it’s demographic form. It controls the graph shown below. Governments control taxation and thus control poverty levels directly.

Imagine if you will, the real truth of that taxation, if used correctly, to move the wealth shown in this graph wherever it wants to, with minimal effect on the whole. The fact is, experts say that such a reality would be a win win for everyone.

https://www.upworthy.com/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong...

Not how little of a change would be needed to reach the ideal.

Wise and moral people throughout history, as well as most religious movements, put poverty as the number one enemy to man’s first priority, which is security.

For perhaps the first time in history, we have the wealth where we could end poverty quite easily, --- just with our collective loose change.

It would seem to me that governments are not acting ethically and should be chastised.

I guess that George Carlin, a wise person, was correct in what he said of what Americans cannot feel in their anal orifices. I apply the same condition to the vast majority of the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY

If true that we are being willfully ignorant, and do not even care about each other to insure we live in a moral environment, then our owners have succeeded in cowering man’s moral nature to a state of subservience. We have given up our freedom. If we ever had any.

We have all accepted to be slaves. Shame on us all.

We do not live in a Democracy. We live in a Hypocrisy.

We can easily rid ourselves of poverty.

Should we?

Morality says yes.

Will we do the right thing?

Not till hell freezes over.

Regards

DL

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Taxation against the poor and working-class are even more starkly unfair in a country like the United Kingdom where you have a government largely made up of the upper classes. Eton, Oxford or Cambridge educated elite who are determined to keep the working class in order, First by destroying the power of the labour Unions and making sure that the Labour Party is kept out of government. The first stage in this process was carried out by the Thatcher government and now they are using their wealth and the mostly right-wing media to destroy the reputation of the Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn.

Many people on the left see Boris Johnson as a buffoon and in many ways he is. But you can't ignore the fact that he is a truly selfish politician and he will do anything to maintain power for himself and the Conservative Party including going to war with Iran at the behest of Donald Trump.

I agree with your first.

As to war. Let us hope the level of stupidity never gets to that level.

Politically, a country gets what it deserves and votes for.

If those who labor do not have the intelligence ore heart and stones to try to protect itself, the rights brainwashing and policies will reign.

Regards

DL

In the U.S you may find the image intereeresting.

Some may find the followind Wealth Inequity in America interesting as well.

Sorry DL.

I saw you posted the above previously.

Curios DL, What do you suggest?

I suggest a tax rate change - perhaps to where it was in the  maybe 1960s.

I don't want to see another French, or Russian Revolution.

Your thoughts?

Funny, or ironic to me that most people consider themself's 'middle class'

Chris

As per that graph.

That fact may be why it is taking us so long to sert a moral tax system.

Regards

DL

I think we are well overdue a revolution 

I agree.

There are no good reasons for us to not demand a more equitable share of what is produced.

It is in fact the moral thing to do.

Imagine people deciding what happens to people.

That almost sounds like democracy.

Regards

DL

Every four or five years we trot down to the polling booths to elect the same old tired people. A real democracy would mean the people being involved in all aspects of the country.

SSShhhhh.

You do not want to awaken the people.

They might demand good governance and actual democracies instead of the oligarchies we all live in.

You don't want to see our oligarch owners angry with us.

Especially when we speak as a government to them.

That really pisses them off.

Regards

DL

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