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We are a worldwide social network of freethinkers, atheists, agnostics and secular humanists.

Is it possible for children brought up in a religious upbringing to move beyond?

Ones I've seen arent able to. They always seem to carry the baggage.

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I disagree...., the Xenophobes are in control of your government.  They're just sitting there to spring into action, when they see a Buck to be made!

Joey

Again  I recomend searchin for a link to a symposiam with lectures about "Destroying the Myth of Market Fundamentalism"

Within that is a lecture from Lori Wallach, Director of Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch, speaks at the forum, “Destroying the Myths of Market Fundamentalism,” held in Washington DC, on October 19, 2018

Lori Wallach's talk is about among other things how trade agreements aren't democratic.

Some may wonder what this has to do with the original subject "Death by Religious Upbringing."

I'd argue that religion is fundamentaly economic.

Want to get rid of religion...then get rid of money.  First of all Civilization and money are mutually exclusive, we all share this "Space Ship" Earth.  Religion isn't just fundamentally economic... it is a system born of the bronze-aged, prehistoric, cave-man concept that we need money.  It is a way of indoctrinating people into a the concept of money, and then extracting it from them...Religion is the biggest and oldest Con on earth, it's older than Prostitution.  All Religion IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY...AND SO IS MONEY.

Joey

Religion Is fundamentally economic....But we can't have Religion, Money, Politics/ and civilization....they are mutually Exclusive.  We Do Not have  Globally, civilization...what we have is it's Counterpart...."Structural Barbarism"  The mass media will drill you that this is civilization!  No One, absolutely No Owns the Earth and its resources, and No one has more privilege to them over anyone else.  No One owns another person...period.  

So what do we do?  We restructure global culture so there is No Motivation for War Nor Crime.  We can never have Utopia, but we can make our lives a million times better!

Joey

Oh, and as Crazy Horse said, "The Earth Owns You."

Joey

tiger teams are killing teams...no matter what...you do the job...period, as you are asked.  No questions, no hesitation, just get it done.

I am not advocating, nor am I supporting Tiger Teams, just trying to relate what is out there.

I like peace and freedom...but I did not grow up in an idealistic, perfect world and live to discuss any of this without making the adjustments. All the best and Happy Holidays to all...

Joey

Tiger Teams Don't exist.

Neither do Spooks.

What, precisely, in your mind, "Is a Spook"

Joey

Spook  - someone who speaks foreing languages and understand different cultures.

 Tiger Teams are specialists that work on special projects.

Chris, you got me...

From your definition, then...I am a Spook :-)  All the best to you and to yours.  

Joey

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